4 ms·

Nanog thread: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-December/210910.html https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-December/2109... Indicates clo

Nanog thread: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-December/210910.html https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-December/2109... Indicates closest ATT building was an ILEC CO, oddly, a voice exchange / telco meet-me point, or what we would call a peering point on the internet. Risk/reward on the bombing, we're clearly missing incentives information, as of the options available and conceivable purposes for going to that much effort, it doesn't add up yet. Everything about it so far is so dumb the only thing I could see it being is a test run for a real one.

bsder 6y ago
My first thought was arson for insurance money. However, the bomb placement makes no sense for that case. It really does seem like this was targeted at the ATT building.
- partiallypro 6y ago
  Insurance doesn't cover terrorism in most all cases, as it is considered a war zone.
  - rsync 6y ago
    Insurance typically does not cover terrorism but, of course, it can cover terrorism. If Tina Turner can insure her legs[1] you can insure your building for terrorism claims. [1] https://www.crfashionbook.com/celebrity/g30247446/celebrity-legs-insured-betty-grable-rihanna/ https://www.crfashionbook.com/celebrity/g30247446/celebrity-...
    - onetimemanytime 6y ago
      But you'd stand out just as someone killing their spouse the day after $1m life insurance kicked in.
  - stkdump 6y ago
    I actually bought insurance that did cover the case of war explicitly, with the only disclaimer being that I can't be personally actively involved in any act of war - for when I spent a few months in Israel.
  - frankydp 6y ago
    Lenders have required my company to carry terrorism clauses on our brick and mortar assets while collateralized. SBA loans also requires this, I believe.
- macinjosh 6y ago
  The area being full of restaurants and bars that may have been pushed into hard times or have gone out of business because of overzealous COVID policies made me think of the possibility of someone doing this for insurance money or to cut their losses somehow.
  - takeda 6y ago
    I think more likely a 5G nut. Tennessee is pretty bad currently with COVID. Given it is 5G building, people were warned to leave area, large explosion (still not enough to destroy the building, but looks like it caused a huge damage) I think it is likely that someone believing that 5G causes people to get sick and die would think that could help.
    - spoopyskelly 6y ago
      Yeah must be one of those 5G nuts that have been rioting, looting and burning down shit for the past 8 months.
    - ed25519FUUU 6y ago
      Those kind of people make their motives very obvious.

bsder 6y ago

My first thought was arson for insurance money. However, the bomb placement makes no sense for that case. It really does seem like this was targeted at the ATT building.

partiallypro 6y ago
Insurance doesn't cover terrorism in most all cases, as it is considered a war zone.
- rsync 6y ago
  Insurance typically does not cover terrorism but, of course, it can cover terrorism. If Tina Turner can insure her legs[1] you can insure your building for terrorism claims. [1] https://www.crfashionbook.com/celebrity/g30247446/celebrity-legs-insured-betty-grable-rihanna/ https://www.crfashionbook.com/celebrity/g30247446/celebrity-...
  - onetimemanytime 6y ago
    But you'd stand out just as someone killing their spouse the day after $1m life insurance kicked in.
- stkdump 6y ago
  I actually bought insurance that did cover the case of war explicitly, with the only disclaimer being that I can't be personally actively involved in any act of war - for when I spent a few months in Israel.
- frankydp 6y ago
  Lenders have required my company to carry terrorism clauses on our brick and mortar assets while collateralized. SBA loans also requires this, I believe.
macinjosh 6y ago
The area being full of restaurants and bars that may have been pushed into hard times or have gone out of business because of overzealous COVID policies made me think of the possibility of someone doing this for insurance money or to cut their losses somehow.
- takeda 6y ago
  I think more likely a 5G nut. Tennessee is pretty bad currently with COVID. Given it is 5G building, people were warned to leave area, large explosion (still not enough to destroy the building, but looks like it caused a huge damage) I think it is likely that someone believing that 5G causes people to get sick and die would think that could help.
  - spoopyskelly 6y ago
    Yeah must be one of those 5G nuts that have been rioting, looting and burning down shit for the past 8 months.
  - ed25519FUUU 6y ago
    Those kind of people make their motives very obvious.