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The U.K. imports plenty of cheese from Europe. When you are a small business, you have less access to capital and so you tend to need a larger, faster return on

The U.K. imports plenty of cheese from Europe. When you are a small business, you have less access to capital and so you tend to need a larger, faster return on investments. Presumably the expense of working out how to ship cheese to the U.K. (or Switzerland) is not worth the expected near term return. A larger cheese maker could afford this investment (and would be in a better position to sell more cheese to eg supermarkets or wholesalers).

roenxi 6y ago
Sure. So what changes after Brexit that isn't 95%-100% unilateral on the side of the UK? If the UK wants to make it easy to import German Cheese they can just let people bring German cheese over the border. Pay with $US.
- aembleton 6y ago
  If there was no trade deal then I think the UK would have to allow all cheeses from all over the world without tariffs if it allows German cheese. As far as I can tell,tthe wto allows you to have two tariffs, one for counties for whom you have a deal and another for everyone else.
  - roenxi 6y ago
    So I personally didn't know that and it is interesting, but it doesn't change my basic perspective. That means the UK can't single out German cheeses if they have the same quality as other cheeses - but that still only means that any issues importing cheeses are created, on purpose, by the UK regulators. Because they explicitly want to control foreign cheeses on their market. Thread ancestor was pointing out he likes having a big market to sell in to. I sympathise. And I really like the sound of the no-tariff low regulation UK cheese market, I'd vote for that if I were in the UK. But, and this is the focus for me in context of the article, these restriction are fully in the control of the UK and have very little to do with the success and failure of an EU-UK deal. It is simply a basic and well established observation that regulation makes it harder to run a business.
    - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
      Does accounting regulation increase or decrease the difficulty of running a business?
      - roenxi 6y ago
        Increases, obviously. If it made it cheaper and easier to run a business there wouldn't need to be a regulator, they would just do it on their own. The argument in favour of accounting regulations is that the costs imposed are acceptable for the risks to the public of lax accounting practices, not that it reduces costs. Much like how the argument in favour of silly cheese regulations is that protecting the public from the wrong type of mouldy cheese is worth not having shafyy running a cheese operation in the UK.
- bigfudge 6y ago
  The uk would have to have it in the agreement or offer same terms to WTO countries
shafyy 6y ago
Yes exactly. It's absolutly possible to sell to any country in the world, but my point is just that the higher admin barrier and costs that come with Brexit take away an otherwise easily accessible, economically important market such as the UK.

roenxi 6y ago

Sure. So what changes after Brexit that isn't 95%-100% unilateral on the side of the UK? If the UK wants to make it easy to import German Cheese they can just let people bring German cheese over the border. Pay with $US.

aembleton 6y ago
If there was no trade deal then I think the UK would have to allow all cheeses from all over the world without tariffs if it allows German cheese. As far as I can tell,tthe wto allows you to have two tariffs, one for counties for whom you have a deal and another for everyone else.
- roenxi 6y ago
  So I personally didn't know that and it is interesting, but it doesn't change my basic perspective. That means the UK can't single out German cheeses if they have the same quality as other cheeses - but that still only means that any issues importing cheeses are created, on purpose, by the UK regulators. Because they explicitly want to control foreign cheeses on their market. Thread ancestor was pointing out he likes having a big market to sell in to. I sympathise. And I really like the sound of the no-tariff low regulation UK cheese market, I'd vote for that if I were in the UK. But, and this is the focus for me in context of the article, these restriction are fully in the control of the UK and have very little to do with the success and failure of an EU-UK deal. It is simply a basic and well established observation that regulation makes it harder to run a business.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    Does accounting regulation increase or decrease the difficulty of running a business?
    - roenxi 6y ago
      Increases, obviously. If it made it cheaper and easier to run a business there wouldn't need to be a regulator, they would just do it on their own. The argument in favour of accounting regulations is that the costs imposed are acceptable for the risks to the public of lax accounting practices, not that it reduces costs. Much like how the argument in favour of silly cheese regulations is that protecting the public from the wrong type of mouldy cheese is worth not having shafyy running a cheese operation in the UK.
bigfudge 6y ago
The uk would have to have it in the agreement or offer same terms to WTO countries

shafyy 6y ago

Yes exactly. It's absolutly possible to sell to any country in the world, but my point is just that the higher admin barrier and costs that come with Brexit take away an otherwise easily accessible, economically important market such as the UK.