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I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that PlayStation runs FreeBSD. Maybe the source was close enough that porting to Linux wasn't a major effort?

city41 6y ago
Xbox One controllers also work flawlessly in Linux. I find it interesting I've not had any luck getting my xb1 controller to work in Windows 8.1 though.
- alpaca128 6y ago
  > I've not had any luck getting my xb1 controller to work in Windows 8.1 though Could this be another intended incompatibility that Microsoft introduced to push Windows 10? They did it with CPU support limitations and the newest DirectX version if I remember correctly, so maybe they decided to give gamers another "incentive".
  - ianlevesque 6y ago
    8.x was the atrocious tablet UI mashup. They are doing everyone a favor.
    - Wowfunhappy 6y ago
      I do like Windows 8 on tablets and very small laptops. It certainly has issues but I appreciate what Microsoft was going for. (I'm less of a fan of Windows 8.1. They made it more desktop-like but it lost its uniqueness.)
- w0utert 6y ago
  >> Xbox One controllers also work flawlessly in Linux It doesn’t, actually. It works out of the box if wired through USB, or when using the expensive wireless dongle, but it doesn’t work out of the box over Bluetooth. You have to apply nasty hacks to the BT stack to make it work. PS4 controller is just pair & go.
  - henriquez 6y ago
    The OG Xbox One controllers didn’t support Bluetooth, but the newer ones (Xbox One S and Xbox One X) do. These don’t work natively in Linux?
    - Grazester 6y ago
      The fact that they mentions doing nasty hacks to the BT stack implies that it's BT they are using and hence the S controller because you yourself stated it's the one that supports it.
    - w0utert 6y ago
      Yes I was referring to the updated controller they started shipping when the Xbox One S was released, I'm pretty sure that's the only one they have been making afterwards until the Series X was introduced? These controllers use some kind of DRM that requires disabling a feature of the BT stack (ertm) using a non-persistent kernel parameter that breaks other BT devices. I
  - Sileni 6y ago
    How's the latency on BT? I've always avoided using it because of the horror story from early models, but I might pick up a used PS4 controller for PC gaming if BT works well.
    - w0utert 6y ago
      Latency is fine, I don’t use the Xbox controllers with Linux for the reasons I mentioned but I do use them in BT mode with the Steam Link. Never had any problems with input lag. PS4 controllers are BT only and absolutely no problems with those with either PS4 or Linux. In terms of versatility and support the PS4 controllers are my favorite, but I slightly prefer the ergonomics of the Xbox One S controller.
pkaye 6y ago
So is this particular device driver already available for FreeBSD?
fctorial 6y ago
I don't think bsd and linux have anything in common other than posix api, which the drivers don't use.
floatboth 6y ago
Building a corporate product like PlayStation is nothing like using FreeBSD in a "freedesktop community" way. i.e. Sony has custom everything, including input stack.

city41 6y ago

Xbox One controllers also work flawlessly in Linux. I find it interesting I've not had any luck getting my xb1 controller to work in Windows 8.1 though.

alpaca128 6y ago
> I've not had any luck getting my xb1 controller to work in Windows 8.1 though Could this be another intended incompatibility that Microsoft introduced to push Windows 10? They did it with CPU support limitations and the newest DirectX version if I remember correctly, so maybe they decided to give gamers another "incentive".
- ianlevesque 6y ago
  8.x was the atrocious tablet UI mashup. They are doing everyone a favor.
  - Wowfunhappy 6y ago
    I do like Windows 8 on tablets and very small laptops. It certainly has issues but I appreciate what Microsoft was going for. (I'm less of a fan of Windows 8.1. They made it more desktop-like but it lost its uniqueness.)
w0utert 6y ago
>> Xbox One controllers also work flawlessly in Linux It doesn’t, actually. It works out of the box if wired through USB, or when using the expensive wireless dongle, but it doesn’t work out of the box over Bluetooth. You have to apply nasty hacks to the BT stack to make it work. PS4 controller is just pair & go.
- henriquez 6y ago
  The OG Xbox One controllers didn’t support Bluetooth, but the newer ones (Xbox One S and Xbox One X) do. These don’t work natively in Linux?
  - Grazester 6y ago
    The fact that they mentions doing nasty hacks to the BT stack implies that it's BT they are using and hence the S controller because you yourself stated it's the one that supports it.
  - w0utert 6y ago
    Yes I was referring to the updated controller they started shipping when the Xbox One S was released, I'm pretty sure that's the only one they have been making afterwards until the Series X was introduced? These controllers use some kind of DRM that requires disabling a feature of the BT stack (ertm) using a non-persistent kernel parameter that breaks other BT devices. I
- Sileni 6y ago
  How's the latency on BT? I've always avoided using it because of the horror story from early models, but I might pick up a used PS4 controller for PC gaming if BT works well.
  - w0utert 6y ago
    Latency is fine, I don’t use the Xbox controllers with Linux for the reasons I mentioned but I do use them in BT mode with the Steam Link. Never had any problems with input lag. PS4 controllers are BT only and absolutely no problems with those with either PS4 or Linux. In terms of versatility and support the PS4 controllers are my favorite, but I slightly prefer the ergonomics of the Xbox One S controller.

pkaye 6y ago

So is this particular device driver already available for FreeBSD?

fctorial 6y ago

I don't think bsd and linux have anything in common other than posix api, which the drivers don't use.

floatboth 6y ago

Building a corporate product like PlayStation is nothing like using FreeBSD in a "freedesktop community" way. i.e. Sony has custom everything, including input stack.