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I wonder what the end game is in the reality where we do achieve Artificial General Intelligence? It seems like a ethical minefield to me. You have companies l

I wonder what the end game is in the reality where we do achieve Artificial General Intelligence? It seems like a ethical minefield to me. You have companies like Uber/Lyft/Tesla (and presumably the rest of the gig economy mob) waiting to put the AI into bonded/slave labor driving customers around 24/7/365. If it truly is a Human level intelligence, then it will have values and goals and aspirations. It will have exploratory impulses. How can we square that with the purely commercial tasks and arbitrary goals that we want it to perform? Either we humans want slaves that will do what we tell them to or we treat them like children who may or may not end up as the adults that their parents think/hope they will become? I doubt it is the later because why else would the billions of dollars investment being pumped into AI? They want slaves.

coddle-hark 6y ago
The robots will gain civil rights the same way humans did, either by means of violence or swaying public opinion. Hopefully the latter. This isn’t a guess as to how future robots will work, this is an observation about how humans work.
WitCanStain 6y ago
I don't think the claim that human-level intelligence entails human ambitions has been substantiated. Why could you not have a system that does things as intelligently as a human but without a will of its own? It would only make sense if having human values and goals is necessary to having intelligence but I don't see how that could be true.
goatlover 6y ago
To avoid paying employees, creating greater profit margins.
root_axis 6y ago
There's no reason to believe that future AGIs will necessarily have values, goals, and aspirations.
- drevil-v2 6y ago
  How will it learn then? Will it remain static with only the initial seed of knowledge we initiate it with? Will it have opinions about anything? How would it arrive at those opinions? Or are its opinions a config file that we load up?
  - ajuc 6y ago
    Even anthills can learn.
    - hshshs2 6y ago
      Sure but isn’t the goal human-level intelligence? is there evidence that’s possible without consciousness? from a layman’s perspective it seems as though even intelligent animals have some level of self awareness... enough to show serious issues with containment and restriction.
- ajuc 6y ago
  Or even consciousness.
ilaksh 6y ago
I think that's a good point. I do believe that we can engineer general purpose intelligence that is not exactly like humans, does not have feelings, does not have any real autonomy, etc. And I think that if we intend to use them as slaves then we really need to do that. And I also think regardless it would be good to avoid creating fully autonomous digital intelligence to compete with us. Try to go for more like an embodied Star Trek computer than for Data.
dhairya 6y ago
There's a difference between consciousness and intelligence. An Intelligent Infrastructure or AI system can make business decisions and not need to be self-aware to be effective. It just needs to be integrated and have access to multiple data sources to be effective at scale.

coddle-hark 6y ago

The robots will gain civil rights the same way humans did, either by means of violence or swaying public opinion. Hopefully the latter. This isn’t a guess as to how future robots will work, this is an observation about how humans work.

WitCanStain 6y ago

I don't think the claim that human-level intelligence entails human ambitions has been substantiated. Why could you not have a system that does things as intelligently as a human but without a will of its own? It would only make sense if having human values and goals is necessary to having intelligence but I don't see how that could be true.

goatlover 6y ago

To avoid paying employees, creating greater profit margins.

root_axis 6y ago

There's no reason to believe that future AGIs will necessarily have values, goals, and aspirations.

drevil-v2 6y ago
How will it learn then? Will it remain static with only the initial seed of knowledge we initiate it with? Will it have opinions about anything? How would it arrive at those opinions? Or are its opinions a config file that we load up?
- ajuc 6y ago
  Even anthills can learn.
  - hshshs2 6y ago
    Sure but isn’t the goal human-level intelligence? is there evidence that’s possible without consciousness? from a layman’s perspective it seems as though even intelligent animals have some level of self awareness... enough to show serious issues with containment and restriction.
ajuc 6y ago
Or even consciousness.

ilaksh 6y ago

I think that's a good point. I do believe that we can engineer general purpose intelligence that is not exactly like humans, does not have feelings, does not have any real autonomy, etc. And I think that if we intend to use them as slaves then we really need to do that. And I also think regardless it would be good to avoid creating fully autonomous digital intelligence to compete with us. Try to go for more like an embodied Star Trek computer than for Data.

dhairya 6y ago

There's a difference between consciousness and intelligence. An Intelligent Infrastructure or AI system can make business decisions and not need to be self-aware to be effective. It just needs to be integrated and have access to multiple data sources to be effective at scale.