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Don't let the downvotes discourage you from speaking up again on this. OP is indeed being very shortsighted as a developer by supporting the app store.

fartcannon 6y ago
Thanks. I'm getting trounced on Apple posts. Open computing is why we are all here. Without it, where would we be, right? Short sighted profiteering.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  You're probably getting downvoted because the situation on macOS is nothing like it is on iOS.
  - zapzupnz 6y ago
    ^ This exactly. It's demonstrative of the knee-jerk reactions from people who see the mere mention of the words 'Apple' or "App Store" and immediately come to piss all over everybody's cereal without actually knowing the full story. All I see are baseless assumptions coupled with a condescending, know-it-all tone from those unwilling to engage with either OP's points, more prone to redefine the discussion to allow their soapboxing. Worse, it's delivered with a tone that screams "oh, the silly thing, why didn't they come to me first? I could have told them better!". Pardon the rant but it gets tiresome in every damn thread about anything vaguely Apple-related.
    - fartcannon 6y ago
      If they'd open up their platforms, they'd get praised. Instead, they make everything worse. They have tremendous influence and it strongly affects the world. Through that influence, they ruined the openess of mp3 players, GUIs, and then cellphones. Now the writing is on the wall: personal computers are next. Forgive me if I care about this stuff.
      - zapzupnz 6y ago
        I'm happy for you to care about this as much as you want. It doesn't make the basically ignoring all the OP wrote in their article for the sake of soapboxing any more tolerable.
        fartcannon 6y ago
        Soap-boxing? I'm pleading.
  - fartcannon 6y ago
    It is sincerely bad enough and worthy of extreme derision if it remains only cell phones.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      It does, but not here.
  - webmobdev 6y ago
    The criticism is well intentioned and you are ignoring that we all want it to continue to be that way! They've been slowly making it more and more difficult for people to install apps outside of the app store on the macOS. The latest version of macOS has already crippled application firewalls, allowing Apple authorised code special privileges to bypass any firewall / VPN to access the internet, even if the user wants to block them. Apple ARM processors further limit what OS you can run on it, even with virtualisation, without needing Apple's permission. All these criticisms are genuine and valid - that it aims to turn the macOS platform into a more closed system like ios.

fartcannon 6y ago

Thanks. I'm getting trounced on Apple posts. Open computing is why we are all here. Without it, where would we be, right? Short sighted profiteering.

saagarjha 6y ago
You're probably getting downvoted because the situation on macOS is nothing like it is on iOS.
- zapzupnz 6y ago
  ^ This exactly. It's demonstrative of the knee-jerk reactions from people who see the mere mention of the words 'Apple' or "App Store" and immediately come to piss all over everybody's cereal without actually knowing the full story. All I see are baseless assumptions coupled with a condescending, know-it-all tone from those unwilling to engage with either OP's points, more prone to redefine the discussion to allow their soapboxing. Worse, it's delivered with a tone that screams "oh, the silly thing, why didn't they come to me first? I could have told them better!". Pardon the rant but it gets tiresome in every damn thread about anything vaguely Apple-related.
  - fartcannon 6y ago
    If they'd open up their platforms, they'd get praised. Instead, they make everything worse. They have tremendous influence and it strongly affects the world. Through that influence, they ruined the openess of mp3 players, GUIs, and then cellphones. Now the writing is on the wall: personal computers are next. Forgive me if I care about this stuff.
    - zapzupnz 6y ago
      I'm happy for you to care about this as much as you want. It doesn't make the basically ignoring all the OP wrote in their article for the sake of soapboxing any more tolerable.
      - fartcannon 6y ago
        Soap-boxing? I'm pleading.
- fartcannon 6y ago
  It is sincerely bad enough and worthy of extreme derision if it remains only cell phones.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    It does, but not here.
- webmobdev 6y ago
  The criticism is well intentioned and you are ignoring that we all want it to continue to be that way! They've been slowly making it more and more difficult for people to install apps outside of the app store on the macOS. The latest version of macOS has already crippled application firewalls, allowing Apple authorised code special privileges to bypass any firewall / VPN to access the internet, even if the user wants to block them. Apple ARM processors further limit what OS you can run on it, even with virtualisation, without needing Apple's permission. All these criticisms are genuine and valid - that it aims to turn the macOS platform into a more closed system like ios.