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In a lot of cases with software I trust the iOS platform security model more than I trust a community of volunteers to consistently protect privacy and security

by jolux 6y ago

In a lot of cases with software I trust the iOS platform security model more than I trust a community of volunteers to consistently protect privacy and security. My desktop system is technologically wide open, versus my phone. I don't have to trust that apps aren't doing certain things because the APIs don't allow it. On the desktop I have to trust a community of volunteers, and the authors, and so on.

colejohnson66 6y ago
In theory, the “web of trust” would solve the trust issue. You trust Dev A who trusts Dev B. Therefore, you implicitly trust Dev B. In practice, bad actors and “rouge” developers make it harder than that.
- amelius 6y ago
  At least a web of trust could to some extent address the issue of loss of trust. At some point Apple, being just a company with shareholders, could start behaving like Microsoft, Amazon, Google or even Facebook. Where would you go then?
  - jolux 6y ago
    Their business incentives are currently more aligned with my desires and needs than any other company. If they started behaving like those other companies, I wouldn't really have anywhere to go. I would probably end up using desktop Linux, but mobile is an open question.
- drawkbox 6y ago
  Interestingly the sandboxed web + web browser provided and provides much more trust and security than apps/binaries. The web browser sandbox was created to solve lots of problems with security of executables, it didn't solve all of them but it did make content by third parties more secure. Granted the web probably tracks you as much as mobile, but it will need permission to use your camera/mic/etc and you can more easily see what is being tracked, at least the scripts and states. All Apple is doing it creating a similar security sandbox to the web and they should.
mlboss 6y ago
I hope Apple comes out with a good VR/AR platform. The only reason I am not buying the new Oculus is the mandatory FB login.
- amelius 6y ago
  If it follows similar guidelines as the App Store, you won't be able to use it to watch pr0n, though. It's either privacy or not being parented. Perhaps you don't care but many people think it's pretty ridiculous.

by jolux 6y ago

colejohnson66 6y ago

In theory, the “web of trust” would solve the trust issue. You trust Dev A who trusts Dev B. Therefore, you implicitly trust Dev B. In practice, bad actors and “rouge” developers make it harder than that.

amelius 6y ago
At least a web of trust could to some extent address the issue of loss of trust. At some point Apple, being just a company with shareholders, could start behaving like Microsoft, Amazon, Google or even Facebook. Where would you go then?
- jolux 6y ago
  Their business incentives are currently more aligned with my desires and needs than any other company. If they started behaving like those other companies, I wouldn't really have anywhere to go. I would probably end up using desktop Linux, but mobile is an open question.
drawkbox 6y ago
Interestingly the sandboxed web + web browser provided and provides much more trust and security than apps/binaries. The web browser sandbox was created to solve lots of problems with security of executables, it didn't solve all of them but it did make content by third parties more secure. Granted the web probably tracks you as much as mobile, but it will need permission to use your camera/mic/etc and you can more easily see what is being tracked, at least the scripts and states. All Apple is doing it creating a similar security sandbox to the web and they should.

mlboss 6y ago

I hope Apple comes out with a good VR/AR platform. The only reason I am not buying the new Oculus is the mandatory FB login.

amelius 6y ago
If it follows similar guidelines as the App Store, you won't be able to use it to watch pr0n, though. It's either privacy or not being parented. Perhaps you don't care but many people think it's pretty ridiculous.