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Apple says it is investigating the company to see if Wistron violated Apple's supplier guidelines but in the meantime here's our new $849 iPhone 12.

MangoCoffee 6y ago
Apple itself pay their contractors shit. Apple investigating? give me a break! i used to work at a Dell repair depot. Dell contracted out to make repair for their stuffs. Dell pay the contractor shit and that in turn make their contractor pay their employees shit. i work in the IT dept of repair depot so my salary isn't like the front line workers. believe me when i said company like Apple, Dell, HP...etc. use contractor like Wistron is because they can pay as little as possible and pocket in as much as they can. Apple doesn't care about the working people.
- tsjq 6y ago
  MBAs see these all as cost centers. So, they will spend lower and lower money on these departments. To them, only sales/marketing are profit centers, and will keep funding those departments for ever
  - deleted 6y ago
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finger 6y ago
> NEW DELHI/BENGALURU (Reuters) -Apple Inc has placed supplier Wistron Corp on probation, saying on Saturday it would not award the Taiwanese contract manufacturer new business until it addressed the way workers were treated at its southern India plant. https://www.reuters.com/article/apple-india-idUSKBN28T0DW https://www.reuters.com/article/apple-india-idUSKBN28T0DW
- ilaksh 6y ago
  Does that include actually paying them what they owe?
  - tedk-42 6y ago
    Apple paying their contractor's employees? That's not how business works. I'm on the side of the workers. Their treatment is dogshit. The target should be placed squarely on the taiwanese company however, not Apple. Apple should have a higher standard, but they can only apologise for the actions of their contractor. If they did that it would make no sense business wise
    - weare138 6y ago
      But at what point does turning a bling eye become complicity? I could maybe understand if we were talking about a small US company that unknowingly contracted out to a sketchy overseas contractor but I have a hard time believing one of the most highly valued and profitable US tech companies like Apple doesn't have direct knowledge of it's own supply chain.
      - tedk-42 6y ago
        They likely do but to what detail? Should they have a line-by-line item of each employee being paid into their bank account each week? Apple can only give guidelines and draw contractual terms. If a supplier is in breach then Apple can go ahead and break the contract and that supplier would lose out on a lot more than just the contract (as is the case here). But to hold Apple accountable for the actions of this company (and it may have only been the finance team being pushed by say, a CFO to show profitability for a quarter before a promotion or something) seems out-of-the-ordinary and unreasonable. They're an easy target but you have to put the bias aside with Apple.
sirius87 6y ago
"Apple says preliminary findings show a violation of supplier code of conduct. Wistron had payment delays for some workers" [1] "Wistron says the company is 'removing' vice president who oversees India business. Co also sets up a 24-hr grievance hotline." [2] Makes we wonder how many other such contractors exist and whether Apple blissfully ignores enforcement, oversight of its PR-friendly supplier CoC. [1] https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340234632504205314 https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340234632504205314 [2] https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340217073763434496 https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340217073763434496

MangoCoffee 6y ago

Apple itself pay their contractors shit. Apple investigating? give me a break! i used to work at a Dell repair depot. Dell contracted out to make repair for their stuffs. Dell pay the contractor shit and that in turn make their contractor pay their employees shit. i work in the IT dept of repair depot so my salary isn't like the front line workers. believe me when i said company like Apple, Dell, HP...etc. use contractor like Wistron is because they can pay as little as possible and pocket in as much as they can. Apple doesn't care about the working people.

tsjq 6y ago
MBAs see these all as cost centers. So, they will spend lower and lower money on these departments. To them, only sales/marketing are profit centers, and will keep funding those departments for ever
- deleted 6y ago
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finger 6y ago

> NEW DELHI/BENGALURU (Reuters) -Apple Inc has placed supplier Wistron Corp on probation, saying on Saturday it would not award the Taiwanese contract manufacturer new business until it addressed the way workers were treated at its southern India plant. https://www.reuters.com/article/apple-india-idUSKBN28T0DW https://www.reuters.com/article/apple-india-idUSKBN28T0DW

ilaksh 6y ago
Does that include actually paying them what they owe?
- tedk-42 6y ago
  Apple paying their contractor's employees? That's not how business works. I'm on the side of the workers. Their treatment is dogshit. The target should be placed squarely on the taiwanese company however, not Apple. Apple should have a higher standard, but they can only apologise for the actions of their contractor. If they did that it would make no sense business wise
  - weare138 6y ago
    But at what point does turning a bling eye become complicity? I could maybe understand if we were talking about a small US company that unknowingly contracted out to a sketchy overseas contractor but I have a hard time believing one of the most highly valued and profitable US tech companies like Apple doesn't have direct knowledge of it's own supply chain.
    - tedk-42 6y ago
      They likely do but to what detail? Should they have a line-by-line item of each employee being paid into their bank account each week? Apple can only give guidelines and draw contractual terms. If a supplier is in breach then Apple can go ahead and break the contract and that supplier would lose out on a lot more than just the contract (as is the case here). But to hold Apple accountable for the actions of this company (and it may have only been the finance team being pushed by say, a CFO to show profitability for a quarter before a promotion or something) seems out-of-the-ordinary and unreasonable. They're an easy target but you have to put the bias aside with Apple.

sirius87 6y ago

"Apple says preliminary findings show a violation of supplier code of conduct. Wistron had payment delays for some workers" [1] "Wistron says the company is 'removing' vice president who oversees India business. Co also sets up a 24-hr grievance hotline." [2] Makes we wonder how many other such contractors exist and whether Apple blissfully ignores enforcement, oversight of its PR-friendly supplier CoC. [1] https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340234632504205314 https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340234632504205314 [2] https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340217073763434496 https://twitter.com/CNBCTV18Live/status/1340217073763434496