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I played through the first 7 hours or so on PC, and, meh, the bugs aren't that bad. The performance is fine, but I'm on a RTX 3080 so that's to be expected. Wh

I played through the first 7 hours or so on PC, and, meh, the bugs aren't that bad. The performance is fine, but I'm on a RTX 3080 so that's to be expected. What gets me is how utterly boring games have become. There's not really much of a game to even be played here. There's lots of talking, lots of sections where the characters are doing things and you end up pressing F to engage some action that continues the, erm, "action" to the next section. There are parts where you press W to get out of a pile of rubble (which engages the prescripted animation of your character getting out of the rubble) or "W or S to crawl", where S doesn't do anything and W makes your character continue his prescripted crawling animation. Press F to take your pills and watch your character perform his prescripted pill-taking action, etc etc etc. The actual gameplay is very nearly nonexistent in the first 7 hours. It's just about 98% thinly-veiled cutscenes, where the only say you have in the "action" is pressing a button to make the characters continue to do the thing they're already going to do. Or picking dialog and listening to dialog. With maybe 5 minutes of really mediocre gunplay mixed in. I don't really see how people have the patience for this. None of this is fun, none of this is engaging. None of this is high-quality enough storytelling to be as good as even the worst B-movie dialog and exposition. If I want to watch scenes where characters act out dialog and action happens, literally any movie would be better than this. I play games because I want to take part in what's going on. I don't want to watch someone else do it. But, I recognize that I'm in the minority here, and most people would rank this game 10/10 if they had the right frame rate and didn't have any bugs. Because I guess people like this sort of thing now. Meanwhile I think modern gaming has just about lost me for good. (Until I remember that Doom Eternal came out this year and that it's hands down one of the best games I've ever played, and I remember there's still hope for gaming.)

martinesko36 6y ago
Just curious, can you recommend games that are pure fun gameplay?
- jrpt 6y ago
  I haven't tried Doom Eternal but it sounds like he's looking for a story-rich, choices-matter game, like The Wolf Among Us, or Life is Strange, or these tags on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1742,6426 https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1742,6426 (People really liked Disco Elysium but I didn't much)
  - Shish2k 6y ago
    If somebody likes Doom, that’s basically the polar opposite of "story-rich, choices-matter game” — in the opening scene of Doom (2016), an NPC attempts to deliver some plot via video call; to which the player character responds by punching the computer screen and immediately going back to shooting demons in the face :P
    - jrpt 6y ago
      Ok, but one of his main complaints was that he was completely bored by the story and that it was short and meaningless. Sounds like he wanted more and better story.
- ck425 6y ago
  Horizon and Spiderman (original and Miles Morales) are both great gameplay wise. Spiderman is more of a button smasher but still a little tactical, Horizon on hard difficulties really makes you think on your feet while still being an rpg. Outer Wilds is one of the best things I've played in years. I don't want to spoil anything because it's main appeal is exploration but think walking/space sim mixed with a platformer and a puzzle game. That doesn't do it justice because emotionally it's an incredible experience but unlike name rpgs the story is told through exploration rather than cut scenes. Best £20 I've spent all year.
  - darkwizard42 6y ago
    Omg yes. Horizon Zero Dawn is still so amazing to replay. Amazing story, tight mechanics, and beautiful open world.
- darkwizard42 6y ago
  Definitely get Horizon Zero Dawn if you are on PlayStation. It is what I still consider one of the best games of the last decade.
chii 6y ago
People had expected cyberpunk to be as good an immersive sim as the first Deux Ex. It's not, and cannot live up to the hype. Regardless of the bugs.
t0mbstone 6y ago
This was one of my biggest complaints with the game, too! Playing the game felt like I was just going through the motions in a story that I was completely bored by. The game doesn't have any of the whimsical charm that Witcher 3 had (like Gwent mini-games). It was just a boring snoozefest of a story with lots of dialogue and pressing buttons to go to the next pseudo decision. Combat is ridiculously broken. Just get a tech sniper rifler and you can clear out entire enemy camps by one-shot headshotting them through walls. Not to mention the countless bugs and crashes. It was annoying having to save the game constantly every single time I did anything, because if I didn't, boom it crashes, and I just lost another 10 minutes of my life. I think the game crashed over 50 times during my playthrough. And the elevators... I hate hate hate waiting in elevators! It's such a cheap and boring way to hide a loading screen. I don't want loading screens at all! I'm playing on a PS5, not an xbox 360 damn it. I suffered through the game and finished the main quest line and was like, "That was it?". My character was barely even leveled up! My character was only level 15 and done with the main quest. They clearly wanted me to spend more time grinding repetitive side quests along the way (even though I did do a ton of them). Needless to say, I uninstalled the game and requested a refund from Sony. Maybe I will come back to the game next year after they release the PS5 enhanced version and have addressed the complaints.

martinesko36 6y ago

Just curious, can you recommend games that are pure fun gameplay?

jrpt 6y ago
I haven't tried Doom Eternal but it sounds like he's looking for a story-rich, choices-matter game, like The Wolf Among Us, or Life is Strange, or these tags on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1742,6426 https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=1742,6426 (People really liked Disco Elysium but I didn't much)
- Shish2k 6y ago
  If somebody likes Doom, that’s basically the polar opposite of "story-rich, choices-matter game” — in the opening scene of Doom (2016), an NPC attempts to deliver some plot via video call; to which the player character responds by punching the computer screen and immediately going back to shooting demons in the face :P
  - jrpt 6y ago
    Ok, but one of his main complaints was that he was completely bored by the story and that it was short and meaningless. Sounds like he wanted more and better story.
ck425 6y ago
Horizon and Spiderman (original and Miles Morales) are both great gameplay wise. Spiderman is more of a button smasher but still a little tactical, Horizon on hard difficulties really makes you think on your feet while still being an rpg. Outer Wilds is one of the best things I've played in years. I don't want to spoil anything because it's main appeal is exploration but think walking/space sim mixed with a platformer and a puzzle game. That doesn't do it justice because emotionally it's an incredible experience but unlike name rpgs the story is told through exploration rather than cut scenes. Best £20 I've spent all year.
- darkwizard42 6y ago
  Omg yes. Horizon Zero Dawn is still so amazing to replay. Amazing story, tight mechanics, and beautiful open world.
darkwizard42 6y ago
Definitely get Horizon Zero Dawn if you are on PlayStation. It is what I still consider one of the best games of the last decade.

chii 6y ago

People had expected cyberpunk to be as good an immersive sim as the first Deux Ex. It's not, and cannot live up to the hype. Regardless of the bugs.

t0mbstone 6y ago

This was one of my biggest complaints with the game, too! Playing the game felt like I was just going through the motions in a story that I was completely bored by. The game doesn't have any of the whimsical charm that Witcher 3 had (like Gwent mini-games). It was just a boring snoozefest of a story with lots of dialogue and pressing buttons to go to the next pseudo decision. Combat is ridiculously broken. Just get a tech sniper rifler and you can clear out entire enemy camps by one-shot headshotting them through walls. Not to mention the countless bugs and crashes. It was annoying having to save the game constantly every single time I did anything, because if I didn't, boom it crashes, and I just lost another 10 minutes of my life. I think the game crashed over 50 times during my playthrough. And the elevators... I hate hate hate waiting in elevators! It's such a cheap and boring way to hide a loading screen. I don't want loading screens at all! I'm playing on a PS5, not an xbox 360 damn it. I suffered through the game and finished the main quest line and was like, "That was it?". My character was barely even leveled up! My character was only level 15 and done with the main quest. They clearly wanted me to spend more time grinding repetitive side quests along the way (even though I did do a ton of them). Needless to say, I uninstalled the game and requested a refund from Sony. Maybe I will come back to the game next year after they release the PS5 enhanced version and have addressed the complaints.