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Ultimately after several attempts at trying to like chess, I find its determinism bit boring. Games with random elements have gameplay elements like evaluation
by billfruit 6y ago
Ultimately after several attempts at trying to like chess, I find its determinism bit boring. Games with random elements have gameplay elements like evaluation of risk and rewards, so I gravitated towards them(like Scrabble).
- PartiallyTyped 6y agoBut is it really random though? Are they anything more than deterministic in the expectation?
- dylanfw 6y agoYou might enjoy "Chess960" (or Fischer Random Chess): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_random_chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_random_chess The order of the back-rank pieces is randomized (but identical for both players).
- Enginerrrd 6y agoStrange, because chess definitely has elements of risk calculation based on your uncertainty. Without a computer, you cannot calculate all the lines ahead, so many decisions come down to trade-offs involving uncertainty. Colloquially, this usually is called "strategy", which involve decisions that are much longer term than calculated tactics, and therefore involve a great deal of uncertainty. Tactics still dominate, but strategy leads to tactics. You're often left making decisions on the basis of, well, maybe if I do this I'll be able to poke my rook through later, but maybe they'll win counterattacking the file I'm leaving.
- adverbly 6y agoGive CamelUp a look! Great for kids or bigger groups! You also might want to give "Liar's Dice" a look - some of the variants are similarly great for bigger groups, and still rely heavily on strategy.
- philshem 6y agoTry Backgammon. The game is full of strategy but you play with “the chaos of the dice”.