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At every turn, Boeing is making it very hard to not commit to flying AirBus.
by ashtonkem 6y ago
At every turn, Boeing is making it very hard to not commit to flying AirBus.
- wow_never 6y agoJetBlue and Delta (soon) are all Airbus fleets if that helps.
- sjg007 6y agoDid you read the article? Airbus A319 is the headliner.
- csnover 6y agoThe irony is that Boeing are currently the only ones who produce an airliner with bleedless air (the 787); all Airbus jets still use bleed air.
- ashtonkem 6y agoThat is indeed ironic, although in my defense all of my flights are going to be on 737/A320 sized aircraft. I can't remember the last time I flew on a wide bodied aircraft, and I'm not likely to do it again soon. My issue is mostly that everything that comes out of Boeing makes me feel like they're more worried about suing them than them hurting me or killing me. Maybe Airbus isn't much better, but it sure seems hard for Boeing to get much worse.
- andy_ppp 6y agoAirbus are European, of course they have better safety standards and working culture than American companies ;-)
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- serf 6y ago> Airbus are European, of course they have better safety standards and working culture than American companies ;-) Substantiate your stereotyping. I'm not saying it is or isn't true, I'm saying that such broad stereotyping without reasoning comes off as bias.
- andy_ppp 6y agoThe winking smiley should give you a clue to say I’m being deliberately provocative... I think the company culture is probably more important than any regulatory practices or geographical locations.
- njanirudh 6y agoIts wrong to say without reason. European work culture and overall laws and rules make sure that customer safety and privacy is given more value than its american counterparts.
- ImprovedSilence 6y agoSeveral examples of fume events in the article are from Airbus planes as well, especially Jet Blue ones. I suspect because Boeing is closer to home, the journalists have more insider insight as to the internal decisions to not do anything at Boeing, thus putting them in an even more negative light. I would guess Airbus is just as bad. The actual airlines seem to be neglegent as well, fighting to not pay workers comp.
- benhurmarcel 6y agoAll airliners (except the 787) use the same technology when it comes to air supply. They even buy the equipment from the same suppliers (engines, heat exchanger, ozone converter, packs…). The risk of fumes is exactly the same on all brands (again, except the 787).
- ashtonkem 6y agoThat’s not true. The actual design of the bleed system matters a lot, as does the recommendations for seal maintenance.
- benhurmarcel 6y agoThe fumes come from the engine, there's nothing the bleed system can do to mitigate that. All bleed components already don't use any lubricant, they don't add any fume. Also all bleed systems across the whole industry have an extremely similar architecture. So in the end the component that really matters for this is the engine. And both Airbus and Boeing use very similar engines from the same suppliers. And the engine manufacturer defines the maintenance tasks for it.
- ashtonkem 6y agoAs I said in another comment; I don’t want to put Airbus on a pedestal here, but the internal emails from Boeing are incredibly damning towards the company culture. Painting people concerned about breathing in fumes as having an “agenda” is a perfect stereotype of corporate malice, it’s almost beyond parody. I’ve never seen such emails out of Airbus, although it’s entirely possible that that’s because they’re in another language and therefore they haven’t made it to the English only media I consume.