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Hyper-realistic masks to go on sale in Japan

52 points by ystad 6y ago

afterburner 6y ago
How hyper-realistic is it really though if it's made using a 3d printer? Looks great in the photo but how about in person? The texture of the "skin" has got to be off.
- Cthulhu_ 6y ago
  Hyper-realistic is probably exaggerated a bit, but it looks realistic enough to not really notice in the street if you're not paying attention, and to not be detectable at all for a camera (unless they're IR cameras, the heat will be wrong)
mewpmewp2 6y ago
I feel like it is a bit of a bait and switch with current pandemic going on and at some point finally mentioning that these masks won't protect against viruses.
- ceilingcorner 6y ago
  Most masks don’t protect against viruses. The point is to prevent your germs from going to others, which functionally should work with any type of mask.
  - ALittleLight 6y ago
    If masks reduce particulate matter leaving your mouth and nose, why wouldn't they reduce particulate matter coming in as well?
    - tonyhb 6y ago
      Masks do that. N95 masks prevent vs reduce. It's just disingenuous to say that masks prevent illness. Your average mask will provide some protection, but not prevent illness.
      - mewpmewp2 6y ago
        We were using the word "protect" though, but "prevent" can also be correct actually as neither have implication that they do it with 100% effectiveness. Helmet protects you or prevents your head from getting damage, but they don't guarantee survival in a high speed crash.
mattowen_uk 6y ago
The article copy states that the faces are from real people who submitted photos. The next logical step here I think is using AI to create a unique face that [probably] isn't in any Face Recognition database.
- tomcam 6y ago
  https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
  - mewpmewp2 6y ago
    Maybe it's placebo because I know this person is not supposed to exist, but is there something else odd going on there as I get some weird, ominous vibe from viewing those pictures? I wonder if there side by side pictures with on one side being an ai generated human and on the other picture an actual person, would average person be able to identify which is which and with what accuracy? It's as if they somehow so closely remind me of someone, but really they are different. As if they are based on some famous person, but they are not them. Most remind me of some actor. For instance I saw this image and instantly thought of Steve Jobs, but not quite really. https://ibb.co/y8fpRP2 https://ibb.co/y8fpRP2 Another one reminding me of Jeffrey Epstein: https://ibb.co/B6CQfdn https://ibb.co/B6CQfdn
    - jaster 6y ago
      Not a perfect test, but you can try for yourself on https://www.whichfaceisreal.com/ https://www.whichfaceisreal.com/ if you're curious (the tells for generated images on this one are quite obvious when you know what to look for)
      - sergj 6y ago
        I had some fun with this. After a while you can find a lot of clues to spot the ai picture. I looked at ca. 15 pictures and got two wrong. Then this happened: https://pasteboard.co/JFldXA6.png https://pasteboard.co/JFldXA6.png Sorry for posting a picture - the picture shows one normal face and one not quite so normal. Guess which is the real face : )
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k1e 6y ago
This can be a way to trick street surveillance/face recognition systems.
ilaksh 6y ago
Anyone know how they make such realistic masks?
FriedrichN 6y ago
How long until this will be used in high profile crimes? When wearing a balaclava your face is obscured on security camera footage, this will allow criminals to lead law enforcement down the wrong path and frustrate their efforts by having them look for a person that does not exist.
- jansan 6y ago
  This happened before: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/armed-robber-wore-latex-mask-859242 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/armed-robber-wore-late... Also, I would not call those Japanese masks "hyper realistic", unless the defintition of "realistic" has changed recently. There are better, much more realistic masks out there.
  - runarb 6y ago
    Another example: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192115/Robbers-disguised-white-cops-caught--send-polite-thank-letter-company-unbelievable-latex-masks.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192115/Robbers-dis...
    - iggldiggl 6y ago
      And already a plot point in those Fantômas movies from the 60s with Jean Marais and Louis de Funès.
- FerretFred 6y ago
  UK reader here .. sign me up for a Priti Patel mask, STAT!
  - toyg 6y ago
    Johnson would work even better, considering his “distinctive” looks.
    - fakedang 6y ago
toyg 6y ago
Hero Mask might be a prophecy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_Mask https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_Mask
xyzal 6y ago
One Weird Trick security camera manufacturers don't want you to know

52 points by ystad 6y ago

How hyper-realistic is it really though if it's made using a 3d printer? Looks great in the photo but how about in person? The texture of the "skin" has got to be off.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago
Hyper-realistic is probably exaggerated a bit, but it looks realistic enough to not really notice in the street if you're not paying attention, and to not be detectable at all for a camera (unless they're IR cameras, the heat will be wrong)

mewpmewp2 6y ago

I feel like it is a bit of a bait and switch with current pandemic going on and at some point finally mentioning that these masks won't protect against viruses.

ceilingcorner 6y ago
Most masks don’t protect against viruses. The point is to prevent your germs from going to others, which functionally should work with any type of mask.
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  If masks reduce particulate matter leaving your mouth and nose, why wouldn't they reduce particulate matter coming in as well?
  - tonyhb 6y ago
    Masks do that. N95 masks prevent vs reduce. It's just disingenuous to say that masks prevent illness. Your average mask will provide some protection, but not prevent illness.
    - mewpmewp2 6y ago
      We were using the word "protect" though, but "prevent" can also be correct actually as neither have implication that they do it with 100% effectiveness. Helmet protects you or prevents your head from getting damage, but they don't guarantee survival in a high speed crash.

mattowen_uk 6y ago

The article copy states that the faces are from real people who submitted photos. The next logical step here I think is using AI to create a unique face that [probably] isn't in any Face Recognition database.

tomcam 6y ago
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
- mewpmewp2 6y ago
  Maybe it's placebo because I know this person is not supposed to exist, but is there something else odd going on there as I get some weird, ominous vibe from viewing those pictures? I wonder if there side by side pictures with on one side being an ai generated human and on the other picture an actual person, would average person be able to identify which is which and with what accuracy? It's as if they somehow so closely remind me of someone, but really they are different. As if they are based on some famous person, but they are not them. Most remind me of some actor. For instance I saw this image and instantly thought of Steve Jobs, but not quite really. https://ibb.co/y8fpRP2 https://ibb.co/y8fpRP2 Another one reminding me of Jeffrey Epstein: https://ibb.co/B6CQfdn https://ibb.co/B6CQfdn
  - jaster 6y ago
    Not a perfect test, but you can try for yourself on https://www.whichfaceisreal.com/ https://www.whichfaceisreal.com/ if you're curious (the tells for generated images on this one are quite obvious when you know what to look for)
    - sergj 6y ago
      I had some fun with this. After a while you can find a lot of clues to spot the ai picture. I looked at ca. 15 pictures and got two wrong. Then this happened: https://pasteboard.co/JFldXA6.png https://pasteboard.co/JFldXA6.png Sorry for posting a picture - the picture shows one normal face and one not quite so normal. Guess which is the real face : )

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k1e 6y ago

This can be a way to trick street surveillance/face recognition systems.

ilaksh 6y ago

Anyone know how they make such realistic masks?

FriedrichN 6y ago

How long until this will be used in high profile crimes? When wearing a balaclava your face is obscured on security camera footage, this will allow criminals to lead law enforcement down the wrong path and frustrate their efforts by having them look for a person that does not exist.

jansan 6y ago
This happened before: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/armed-robber-wore-latex-mask-859242 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/armed-robber-wore-late... Also, I would not call those Japanese masks "hyper realistic", unless the defintition of "realistic" has changed recently. There are better, much more realistic masks out there.
- runarb 6y ago
  Another example: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192115/Robbers-disguised-white-cops-caught--send-polite-thank-letter-company-unbelievable-latex-masks.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192115/Robbers-dis...
  - iggldiggl 6y ago
    And already a plot point in those Fantômas movies from the 60s with Jean Marais and Louis de Funès.
FerretFred 6y ago
UK reader here .. sign me up for a Priti Patel mask, STAT!
- toyg 6y ago
  Johnson would work even better, considering his “distinctive” looks.
  - fakedang 6y ago

toyg 6y ago

Hero Mask might be a prophecy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_Mask https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_Mask

xyzal 6y ago

One Weird Trick security camera manufacturers don't want you to know