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The game looks way better than pre-release marketing footage [0], which gets zero recognition and only a bunch of hate. Meanwhile when Ubisoft releases yet ano

The game looks way better than pre-release marketing footage [0], which gets zero recognition and only a bunch of hate. Meanwhile when Ubisoft releases yet another "Doesn't look anything like the marketing footage", usually also crunched into existence, people just shrug it off. In that context it's really weird how everybody seems to be dog-piling on CDPR right now for the most weird reasons, when otherwise they have a pretty pro-consumer track-record, particularly compared to the bigger AAA publishing fishes in the pond. [0] https://youtu.be/Ogihi-OewPQ https://youtu.be/Ogihi-OewPQ

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
People want unicorns, they thought they were going to get a unicorn, and instead they got an old, beaten-down horse.
- drops 6y ago
  That “horse” is what anyone who is familiar with CDPR games would expect. Also, I hope you’re being sarcastic (seeing the silly takes from some critics about how Cyberpunk is not the “future of gaming” they were expecting, I’m not sure anymore).
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    I was talking about perception, rather than reality.
esyir 6y ago
I'd say that it feels like someone in the media has an axe to grind here. CDPR's policies seem like above average for the admittedly dismal field of game development, but they're drawing particular flack, especially when other companies with worse treatment conditions (naughty dog) instead get lionized.
- freeflight 6y ago
  > I'd say that it feels like someone in the media has an axe to grind here. Most definitely when looking at some of the not so technical complaints, like about "representation" or how the studio is allegedly all kinds of phobic and the general tone not being PC enough. Particularly cynical to complain about the commodification of trans-people, in a setting where even peoples memories and individual body-party are just another commodity. When that's very big part of that dystopian worlds settings, always has been, and not some specific dig against trans people. Makes me wonder how much of that is simply a pile-on effect from the general situation in Poland with LGTBQ+ issues and CDPR getting drawn into that as some kind of scapegoat.
- willis936 6y ago
  Some of the criticism has been unmerited, but no more than expected. That doesn’t invalidate the valid, merited criticism though, of which there is much. Sony has pulled the game from the Playstation Store. This is a historically bad release. CDPR might actually implode from this. https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/17/22188007/sony-cyberpunk-2077-removed-playstation-store-full-refunds-policy https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/17/22188007/sony-cyberpunk-...

disgruntledphd2 6y ago

People want unicorns, they thought they were going to get a unicorn, and instead they got an old, beaten-down horse.

drops 6y ago
That “horse” is what anyone who is familiar with CDPR games would expect. Also, I hope you’re being sarcastic (seeing the silly takes from some critics about how Cyberpunk is not the “future of gaming” they were expecting, I’m not sure anymore).
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  I was talking about perception, rather than reality.

esyir 6y ago

I'd say that it feels like someone in the media has an axe to grind here. CDPR's policies seem like above average for the admittedly dismal field of game development, but they're drawing particular flack, especially when other companies with worse treatment conditions (naughty dog) instead get lionized.

freeflight 6y ago
> I'd say that it feels like someone in the media has an axe to grind here. Most definitely when looking at some of the not so technical complaints, like about "representation" or how the studio is allegedly all kinds of phobic and the general tone not being PC enough. Particularly cynical to complain about the commodification of trans-people, in a setting where even peoples memories and individual body-party are just another commodity. When that's very big part of that dystopian worlds settings, always has been, and not some specific dig against trans people. Makes me wonder how much of that is simply a pile-on effect from the general situation in Poland with LGTBQ+ issues and CDPR getting drawn into that as some kind of scapegoat.
willis936 6y ago
Some of the criticism has been unmerited, but no more than expected. That doesn’t invalidate the valid, merited criticism though, of which there is much. Sony has pulled the game from the Playstation Store. This is a historically bad release. CDPR might actually implode from this. https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/17/22188007/sony-cyberpunk-2077-removed-playstation-store-full-refunds-policy https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/17/22188007/sony-cyberpunk-...