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Last-gen consoles? If it wasn't for the most recent delay of release date, Cyberpunk 2077 would've been released before PS5 and the new Xbox were even available

Last-gen consoles? If it wasn't for the most recent delay of release date, Cyberpunk 2077 would've been released before PS5 and the new Xbox were even available for purchase. You're acting like people are trying to play this game on an NES. If the game ain't gonna work on a certain console, don't sell it for that console. Plain and simple. Or if you're going to release it anyway, at least let gaming critics review it and let the public make an informed decision, which CDPR deliberately didn't do. I'm baffled as to why so many people are defending this incredibly shady business practice by CDPR.

platz 6y ago
I'm using their own terminology.
tristor 6y ago
The complaints aren't about CP77 performance on Xbox Series X or PS5. They're about it's performance on non-X Xbox One and non-Pro PS4s. Which aren't just last-gen consoles, they're the lowest tier of last gen consoles. I don't think CDPR should have released the games on those platforms if they don't have their performance scaling right. I'm not defending their actions, but I think most people just have their expectations out of whack. CP77 is the first AAA game released in a long time that was built for PC first and ported to consoles, instead of the other way around. Instead of PCs getting crappy ports hard-limited to 60fps no matter how much GPU you throw at it, and crappy control schemes, the dregs of last-gen consoles got really poor performance and visuals compared to people on PS4 Pros, Xbox One X, and the latest 2020 gen consoles. It's not acceptable, but it's also hard to imagine how you could have made people happy when they're that far underpowered from a hardware department for a game like CP77.
- jsjw7sbw 6y ago
  Thats funny because I felt like it was a port because of the horrible control scheme. You cant move slower, so you have to tap keys to move slowly, but tapping keys does dashes, exactly the opposite what you would want. Dig around some conf files to fix it. Crouch button is c, but it doesnt work during dialogue, even if you rebind the dialogue skip button that is also c by default. Its like nobody playtested it at all on PC
- __david__ 6y ago
  I feel like your PC port complaints are about 5 to 10 years out of date. I can't think of a AAA game I've played on PC in the last 5 years that was locked to 60fps and had crappy controls—All the big AAA ports like Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed have all been fine recently. And yeah, the PS4 and Xbox One are long in the tooth, but there are plenty of games that look absolutely stellar on them. I'm going to only give some PS4 examples here, since that is the one I have, but Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman, and The Last of Us Part 2 all came out recently and look _really_ good even on a 7 year old console. And 3 of those are open world. It's definitely possible to make a base PS4/Xbox one game that looks really good, and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for CDPR to have taken those consoles into account from the beginning. If so, they might have had a chance of them being fine on day one. I just hope people on a PS4/Xbox One that bought the game will eventually get a patch that make it run reasonably, since apparently refunds aren't really happening.
muststopmyths 6y ago
This is also on the console makers. They brought PC fragmentation to the consoles by making different versions of the same console over the decade. To make it worse, they will not let a publisher publish just to PS4 Pro or Xbox One X. Your game has to work on all versions of the console. It's beyond idiotic and I'm surprised it took so long for the consequences to be visible. I'm glad Sony at least seems to have backed away from fragmenting their own platform in this generation. CDPR should have done their due diligence, obviously, but the platform owners have done them no favors by adding another dimension to the testing matrix.
chmod775 6y ago
The developers essentially transformed the game from a current gen to a next gen title between 2018 and 2020. Compare the 2018 version to the release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogihi-OewPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogihi-OewPQ They probably should've just come out and said they're not releasing the game for the last gen after all, and people would have been somewhat more understanding.

platz 6y ago

I'm using their own terminology.

tristor 6y ago

The complaints aren't about CP77 performance on Xbox Series X or PS5. They're about it's performance on non-X Xbox One and non-Pro PS4s. Which aren't just last-gen consoles, they're the lowest tier of last gen consoles. I don't think CDPR should have released the games on those platforms if they don't have their performance scaling right. I'm not defending their actions, but I think most people just have their expectations out of whack. CP77 is the first AAA game released in a long time that was built for PC first and ported to consoles, instead of the other way around. Instead of PCs getting crappy ports hard-limited to 60fps no matter how much GPU you throw at it, and crappy control schemes, the dregs of last-gen consoles got really poor performance and visuals compared to people on PS4 Pros, Xbox One X, and the latest 2020 gen consoles. It's not acceptable, but it's also hard to imagine how you could have made people happy when they're that far underpowered from a hardware department for a game like CP77.

jsjw7sbw 6y ago
Thats funny because I felt like it was a port because of the horrible control scheme. You cant move slower, so you have to tap keys to move slowly, but tapping keys does dashes, exactly the opposite what you would want. Dig around some conf files to fix it. Crouch button is c, but it doesnt work during dialogue, even if you rebind the dialogue skip button that is also c by default. Its like nobody playtested it at all on PC
__david__ 6y ago
I feel like your PC port complaints are about 5 to 10 years out of date. I can't think of a AAA game I've played on PC in the last 5 years that was locked to 60fps and had crappy controls—All the big AAA ports like Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed have all been fine recently. And yeah, the PS4 and Xbox One are long in the tooth, but there are plenty of games that look absolutely stellar on them. I'm going to only give some PS4 examples here, since that is the one I have, but Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman, and The Last of Us Part 2 all came out recently and look _really_ good even on a 7 year old console. And 3 of those are open world. It's definitely possible to make a base PS4/Xbox one game that looks really good, and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for CDPR to have taken those consoles into account from the beginning. If so, they might have had a chance of them being fine on day one. I just hope people on a PS4/Xbox One that bought the game will eventually get a patch that make it run reasonably, since apparently refunds aren't really happening.

muststopmyths 6y ago

This is also on the console makers. They brought PC fragmentation to the consoles by making different versions of the same console over the decade. To make it worse, they will not let a publisher publish just to PS4 Pro or Xbox One X. Your game has to work on all versions of the console. It's beyond idiotic and I'm surprised it took so long for the consequences to be visible. I'm glad Sony at least seems to have backed away from fragmenting their own platform in this generation. CDPR should have done their due diligence, obviously, but the platform owners have done them no favors by adding another dimension to the testing matrix.

chmod775 6y ago

The developers essentially transformed the game from a current gen to a next gen title between 2018 and 2020. Compare the 2018 version to the release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogihi-OewPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogihi-OewPQ They probably should've just come out and said they're not releasing the game for the last gen after all, and people would have been somewhat more understanding.