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Agreed. Though Signal has more utility than WhatsApp thanks to its disappearing messages features. Technological solutions only go so far when offline restrict

Agreed. Though Signal has more utility than WhatsApp thanks to its disappearing messages features. Technological solutions only go so far when offline restrictions can be imposed. It's entirely likely that once Signal figures out username based registration & sees some traction in, Governments will just ban it.

input_sh 6y ago
I mean, I guess it depends on which governments you're talking about, but I don't see that happening in the US or the EU. > In March 2017, Signal was approved by the Sergeant at Arms of the U.S. Senate for use by senators and their staff. https://www.zdnet.com/article/in-encryption-push-senate-approves-signal-for-encrypted-messaging/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/in-encryption-push-senate-appr... > The European Commission has told its staff to start using Signal, an end-to-end-encrypted messaging app, in a push to increase the security of its communications. https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-commission-to-staff-switch-to-signal-messaging-app/ https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-commission-to-staff-switc...
- Andrex 6y ago
  Depends how friendly the administration is to encryption. A lot has happened since March 2017. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/27/trump-officials-weigh-encryption-crackdown-1385306 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/27/trump-officials-we... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/urgent-earn-it-act-introduced-house-representatives https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/urgent-earn-it-act-int... http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-now-even-worse-anti-encryption-bill-earn-it-doesn%E2%80%99t-make-earn-it-bill-ok http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-no... The US and cryptography have never really gotten along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
- gopkarthik 6y ago
  Agreed, I doubt the EU is going to do that too. I replied assuming that the parent was from Kashmir/India.
  - 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
    yeah. my name seems to trigger "some" people. banning can be bypassed by whatever means available. the issue is that username wouldn't be tied to you which the police can just knock on the door which has happened more times i can count. take for example matrix or discord. these services because of their non phone nature, it is very difficult for police to track down dissent. encryption is a fancy word when you are the only one using it. i remember actively avoiding using tor back a decade ago because while it could be used to securely communicate online, i would have been the sore thumb. mass adoption of encryption of all forms in all communications without leaving afk trails is the only way to keep internet safe from governmental control.

input_sh 6y ago

I mean, I guess it depends on which governments you're talking about, but I don't see that happening in the US or the EU. > In March 2017, Signal was approved by the Sergeant at Arms of the U.S. Senate for use by senators and their staff. https://www.zdnet.com/article/in-encryption-push-senate-approves-signal-for-encrypted-messaging/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/in-encryption-push-senate-appr... > The European Commission has told its staff to start using Signal, an end-to-end-encrypted messaging app, in a push to increase the security of its communications. https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-commission-to-staff-switch-to-signal-messaging-app/ https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-commission-to-staff-switc...

Andrex 6y ago
Depends how friendly the administration is to encryption. A lot has happened since March 2017. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/27/trump-officials-weigh-encryption-crackdown-1385306 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/27/trump-officials-we... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/urgent-earn-it-act-introduced-house-representatives https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/urgent-earn-it-act-int... http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-now-even-worse-anti-encryption-bill-earn-it-doesn%E2%80%99t-make-earn-it-bill-ok http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-no... The US and cryptography have never really gotten along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
gopkarthik 6y ago
Agreed, I doubt the EU is going to do that too. I replied assuming that the parent was from Kashmir/India.
- 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
  yeah. my name seems to trigger "some" people. banning can be bypassed by whatever means available. the issue is that username wouldn't be tied to you which the police can just knock on the door which has happened more times i can count. take for example matrix or discord. these services because of their non phone nature, it is very difficult for police to track down dissent. encryption is a fancy word when you are the only one using it. i remember actively avoiding using tor back a decade ago because while it could be used to securely communicate online, i would have been the sore thumb. mass adoption of encryption of all forms in all communications without leaving afk trails is the only way to keep internet safe from governmental control.