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Do the people who had their property stolen by the Nazis have to pay the US for liberating the death camps? Yeah, no. There are simple answers to several of yo

by Zigurd 6y ago

Do the people who had their property stolen by the Nazis have to pay the US for liberating the death camps? Yeah, no. There are simple answers to several of your questions.

adventured 6y ago
Now that you mention it. Modern Germany should pay the US enormous sums in reparations for our role in destroying Nazi Germany, saving Western Europe (which Russia did not do, Russia enslaved half of Europe), freeing people from Nazi death camps, propping up a post-war democratic Germany against the conquering monster to the East. Not just the US of course. Britain and France among others are owed a lot more in reparations for what Germany did and the long-term consequences. The US got repaid - only in part - for its war lending. It has never been paid reparations for its losses in WW2 (including 400,000 military deaths). What's the reparations tally for 400,000 dead, going by the numbers thrown around these days? $10 trillion? Germany and Japan can figure out the split on that and then write some big fat checks to the families in question.
- gibreparations 6y ago
  You're joking but what you describe is pretty much the Treaty of Versailles, which was actually one of the triggers of WW2.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    I study WW2, and FYI it's much more complicated than "the Treaty of Versailles." The problem is that the "state" that started WW2 was the Austria-Hungarian Empire (against Serbia), and Germany was just a treaty ally. But then A-H dissolved, leaving Germany holding the bag. It didn't help that Germany refused to negotiate a peace treaty earlier, and that they destroyed the Alsace region during their retreat. But in the end, it would have taken an occupation to demonstrate that Germany actually lost, and that didn't happen. Hence the later Allied occupations of Germany and Japan in WW2.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    > the "state" that started WW2 was the Austria-Hungarian Empire typo, make that WW1.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  I study WW2. One of the most startling things, and one that takes the longest to comprehend, is that the entire industrial output of the US went into the war effort for about 5 years.
redis_mlc 6y ago
If you're young and stupid, everything looks simple. Just pull down all the statues right? Even when they're for black historical figures, like Frederick Douglass: https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/frederick-douglass-descendant-community-reacts-to-statue-torn-down-/5784140/ https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/frederick-dougl... If the US gets to the point of considering reparations, then economists will get involved, and it will be a logical calculation, not an emotional one. The problem of intermarriage will probably end up being an intractable one. But you didn't think about that, now did you?

by Zigurd 6y ago

Do the people who had their property stolen by the Nazis have to pay the US for liberating the death camps? Yeah, no. There are simple answers to several of your questions.

adventured 6y ago

Now that you mention it. Modern Germany should pay the US enormous sums in reparations for our role in destroying Nazi Germany, saving Western Europe (which Russia did not do, Russia enslaved half of Europe), freeing people from Nazi death camps, propping up a post-war democratic Germany against the conquering monster to the East. Not just the US of course. Britain and France among others are owed a lot more in reparations for what Germany did and the long-term consequences. The US got repaid - only in part - for its war lending. It has never been paid reparations for its losses in WW2 (including 400,000 military deaths). What's the reparations tally for 400,000 dead, going by the numbers thrown around these days? $10 trillion? Germany and Japan can figure out the split on that and then write some big fat checks to the families in question.

gibreparations 6y ago
You're joking but what you describe is pretty much the Treaty of Versailles, which was actually one of the triggers of WW2.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  I study WW2, and FYI it's much more complicated than "the Treaty of Versailles." The problem is that the "state" that started WW2 was the Austria-Hungarian Empire (against Serbia), and Germany was just a treaty ally. But then A-H dissolved, leaving Germany holding the bag. It didn't help that Germany refused to negotiate a peace treaty earlier, and that they destroyed the Alsace region during their retreat. But in the end, it would have taken an occupation to demonstrate that Germany actually lost, and that didn't happen. Hence the later Allied occupations of Germany and Japan in WW2.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  > the "state" that started WW2 was the Austria-Hungarian Empire typo, make that WW1.
redis_mlc 6y ago
I study WW2. One of the most startling things, and one that takes the longest to comprehend, is that the entire industrial output of the US went into the war effort for about 5 years.

redis_mlc 6y ago

If you're young and stupid, everything looks simple. Just pull down all the statues right? Even when they're for black historical figures, like Frederick Douglass: https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/frederick-douglass-descendant-community-reacts-to-statue-torn-down-/5784140/ https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/frederick-dougl... If the US gets to the point of considering reparations, then economists will get involved, and it will be a logical calculation, not an emotional one. The problem of intermarriage will probably end up being an intractable one. But you didn't think about that, now did you?