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> forever I suspect a Reddit PM is watching a usage of old.reddit.com metric and waiting for it to hit a certain threshold before canning it. Perhaps the migra

> forever I suspect a Reddit PM is watching a usage of old.reddit.com metric and waiting for it to hit a certain threshold before canning it. Perhaps the migration has taken longer than they planned but I have no doubt in time old.reddit.com will be retired.

pletsch 6y ago
I expect features to just stop working on old.reddit as we get further away from the redesign, whether it be updates internally or full new features. This will continue until it gets unusable and then they'll kill it because 'nobody uses it!'
- lapetitejort 6y ago
  I noticed polls don't work on old reddit. Then don't even show in the feed. If you visit the poll directly it expands as some sort of embedded new reddit.
- teraflop 6y ago
  They've already started taking small steps in this direction. For example, about a year and a half ago they added the option for subreddit moderators to "lock" an individual comment to prevent others from replying to it (previously it was only possible to lock entire threads). They deliberately avoided exposing this functionality through the old Reddit UI. https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/brgr8i/moderators_you_may_now_lock_individual_comments/ https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/brgr8i/moderators_...
- AndrewKemendo 6y ago
  On mobile they already limit how many comments you can view and force you to sign in otherwise.
  - KMnO4 6y ago
    Signing in doesn’t remove the limit. They want you to download their app.
- dorkinspace 6y ago
  With the recent new features they have been adding, I would consider old.reddit not supporting them as a feature rather than a bug. As others have said, none of the new features they have added have been desirable.
JxLS-cpgbe0 6y ago
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- ximeng 6y ago
  https://i.reddit.com https://i.reddit.com still lives
politelemon 6y ago
I think you're right. Part of the clue is in the name 'old' which in the IT world is often associated with something you'd want to remove, tech debt, baggage, staleness. What they'll be looking for is the right messaging to force a migration to new. In a similar vein, there is Adobe Lightroom Classic. There are still people who aren't giving in to Adobe's predatory subscription model, but at some point the "Classic" will be deprecated in favor of "Cloud"
- notyourwork 6y ago
  Exactly, when the cost outweighs the revenue benefits for the deprecated solution it is easy to justify killing it.
everdrive 6y ago
Indeed, and at which point, I stop using reddit. Perhaps as a search extension (ie, "site:reddit.com topic") every so often.
somehnguy 6y ago
The day reddit drops old.reddit.com is the last day I ever visit. The redesign is that horrible for anything but mindless scrolling watching clip videos.
- awakeasleep 6y ago
  Reddit's video player more or less does not work
  - lmpostor 6y ago
    It works as a content rip-off machines, which is exactly what it was designed for... but yeah in a vacuum it blows
  - erikpukinskis 6y ago
    Every now and then a play a video on Reddit to see if it works yet, and the answer is always no. Sometimes the first second or two plays though.
  - jeremy_k 6y ago
    It works, but the video restarts at least once, sometimes two or three times, before it finally plays correctly. Its very annoying
  - dhritzkiv 6y ago
    It makes me wonder what's going on at a technical level, that it's still broken after all this time. I would have figured that a dependable native video player is a solved problem.
- bonestamp2 6y ago
  > The redesign is that horrible for anything but mindless scrolling watching clip videos. That's not entirely true... the redesign has some moderation and content submission improvements. But, if you don't mod or submit content then you might not notice those improvements. That said, like digg, the redesign is also missing a lot of features that old.reddit has. So, if they don't want to digg v4 themselves (which is what made Reddit popular to begin with) then they have to at least keep old.reddit around until there is feature parity. They will definitely shed a lot of users when they drop old.reddit but anyone who uses particular subreddits for their hobbies and interests may bite the bullet and get used to the redesign if they like the community enough. Hopefully Reddit Enhancement Suite makes a lot of improvements when that happens because RES makes reddit so much better.
saurik 6y ago
I 100% understood that, which was in fact the background of my thesis: it looks like they are going to be forced ("relegated", even) to maintain old.reddit.com forever because, explicitly, so many people aren't upgrading and the new design isn't succeeding in motivating these people to upgrade (even years later!). I mean, someone else on this thread noted that the new design seems to only have twice as many page views as the new design?! LOL
- notyourwork 6y ago
  They aren't forced to do anything, if a small enough minority of users goto old.reddit.com they will willingly deprecate it due to the cost reduction. Sometimes a small hit is beneficial even if it harms your customers because of the reduced operational cost. Simplifiers allow you to do a lot of things faster.

pletsch 6y ago

I expect features to just stop working on old.reddit as we get further away from the redesign, whether it be updates internally or full new features. This will continue until it gets unusable and then they'll kill it because 'nobody uses it!'

lapetitejort 6y ago
I noticed polls don't work on old reddit. Then don't even show in the feed. If you visit the poll directly it expands as some sort of embedded new reddit.
teraflop 6y ago
They've already started taking small steps in this direction. For example, about a year and a half ago they added the option for subreddit moderators to "lock" an individual comment to prevent others from replying to it (previously it was only possible to lock entire threads). They deliberately avoided exposing this functionality through the old Reddit UI. https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/brgr8i/moderators_you_may_now_lock_individual_comments/ https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/brgr8i/moderators_...
AndrewKemendo 6y ago
On mobile they already limit how many comments you can view and force you to sign in otherwise.
- KMnO4 6y ago
  Signing in doesn’t remove the limit. They want you to download their app.
dorkinspace 6y ago
With the recent new features they have been adding, I would consider old.reddit not supporting them as a feature rather than a bug. As others have said, none of the new features they have added have been desirable.

JxLS-cpgbe0 6y ago

ximeng 6y ago
https://i.reddit.com https://i.reddit.com still lives

politelemon 6y ago

I think you're right. Part of the clue is in the name 'old' which in the IT world is often associated with something you'd want to remove, tech debt, baggage, staleness. What they'll be looking for is the right messaging to force a migration to new. In a similar vein, there is Adobe Lightroom Classic. There are still people who aren't giving in to Adobe's predatory subscription model, but at some point the "Classic" will be deprecated in favor of "Cloud"

notyourwork 6y ago
Exactly, when the cost outweighs the revenue benefits for the deprecated solution it is easy to justify killing it.

everdrive 6y ago

Indeed, and at which point, I stop using reddit. Perhaps as a search extension (ie, "site:reddit.com topic") every so often.

somehnguy 6y ago

The day reddit drops old.reddit.com is the last day I ever visit. The redesign is that horrible for anything but mindless scrolling watching clip videos.

awakeasleep 6y ago
Reddit's video player more or less does not work
- lmpostor 6y ago
  It works as a content rip-off machines, which is exactly what it was designed for... but yeah in a vacuum it blows
- erikpukinskis 6y ago
  Every now and then a play a video on Reddit to see if it works yet, and the answer is always no. Sometimes the first second or two plays though.
- jeremy_k 6y ago
  It works, but the video restarts at least once, sometimes two or three times, before it finally plays correctly. Its very annoying
- dhritzkiv 6y ago
  It makes me wonder what's going on at a technical level, that it's still broken after all this time. I would have figured that a dependable native video player is a solved problem.
bonestamp2 6y ago
> The redesign is that horrible for anything but mindless scrolling watching clip videos. That's not entirely true... the redesign has some moderation and content submission improvements. But, if you don't mod or submit content then you might not notice those improvements. That said, like digg, the redesign is also missing a lot of features that old.reddit has. So, if they don't want to digg v4 themselves (which is what made Reddit popular to begin with) then they have to at least keep old.reddit around until there is feature parity. They will definitely shed a lot of users when they drop old.reddit but anyone who uses particular subreddits for their hobbies and interests may bite the bullet and get used to the redesign if they like the community enough. Hopefully Reddit Enhancement Suite makes a lot of improvements when that happens because RES makes reddit so much better.

saurik 6y ago

I 100% understood that, which was in fact the background of my thesis: it looks like they are going to be forced ("relegated", even) to maintain old.reddit.com forever because, explicitly, so many people aren't upgrading and the new design isn't succeeding in motivating these people to upgrade (even years later!). I mean, someone else on this thread noted that the new design seems to only have twice as many page views as the new design?! LOL

notyourwork 6y ago
They aren't forced to do anything, if a small enough minority of users goto old.reddit.com they will willingly deprecate it due to the cost reduction. Sometimes a small hit is beneficial even if it harms your customers because of the reduced operational cost. Simplifiers allow you to do a lot of things faster.