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Next step they’ll stop publishing the RPM spec files or change the license on them. Edit: why the downvotes.

by qz2 6y ago

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bonzini 6y ago
They (we, I work at Red Hat) would have no engineering department the second after.
- qz2 6y ago
  Yes but to be clear the folk that may make that decision may not be aware of that. I’ve been in that situation before myself.
  - bonzini 6y ago
    They do (I know them, and I have talked to them since Wednesday). That's not to say this was not a screwup, but I would say that rumors around the death of free RHEL rebuilds have been greatly exaggerated.
    - qz2 6y ago
      After a PR fuck up this large I am disinclined to agree.
      - bonzini 6y ago
        I would be too, but I know the people.
        ikiris 6y ago
        you might want to ask them where they're going now that no one wants to touch red hat with a 10 foot pole?
        bonzini 6y ago
        That's, like, your opinion.
- justapassenger 6y ago
  People can be replaced. Especially at big corporation.
  - znpy 6y ago
    Not really, not at that level. Take BTRFS: it was a technology preview in an earlier release of RHEL but it was later retracted. AFAIK they don't have enough internal people working on BTRFS, most of their filesystem people are XFS people. And since shipping btrfs would have meant supporting it for the next ~5-10 years (along with bugfix backports)... they decided to pull the plug.
    - justapassenger 6y ago
      Redhat is still managed as geeky project, where you have tech wars. Sadly, I think that in few years IBM will make sure that only wars will be internal turf wars between different departments. Decision to drop something like btrfs will be based on which VP has better political game skills, and people working on it won’t have much saying in it. I’d love to be wrong tho, as redhat is one of the most important Linux project in the history, and it’ll be sad if it ends like that.
      - znpy 6y ago
        > Redhat is still managed as geeky project, where you have tech wars. are you red hat employee to be able to tell that or is it just a speculation ?

Next step they’ll stop publishing the RPM spec files or change the license on them. Edit: why the downvotes.

by qz2 6y ago

Next step they’ll stop publishing the RPM spec files or change the license on them. Edit: why the downvotes.

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bonzini 6y ago

They (we, I work at Red Hat) would have no engineering department the second after.

qz2 6y ago
Yes but to be clear the folk that may make that decision may not be aware of that. I’ve been in that situation before myself.
- bonzini 6y ago
  They do (I know them, and I have talked to them since Wednesday). That's not to say this was not a screwup, but I would say that rumors around the death of free RHEL rebuilds have been greatly exaggerated.
  - qz2 6y ago
    After a PR fuck up this large I am disinclined to agree.
    - bonzini 6y ago
      I would be too, but I know the people.
      - ikiris 6y ago
        you might want to ask them where they're going now that no one wants to touch red hat with a 10 foot pole?
        bonzini 6y ago
        That's, like, your opinion.
justapassenger 6y ago
People can be replaced. Especially at big corporation.
- znpy 6y ago
  Not really, not at that level. Take BTRFS: it was a technology preview in an earlier release of RHEL but it was later retracted. AFAIK they don't have enough internal people working on BTRFS, most of their filesystem people are XFS people. And since shipping btrfs would have meant supporting it for the next ~5-10 years (along with bugfix backports)... they decided to pull the plug.
  - justapassenger 6y ago
    Redhat is still managed as geeky project, where you have tech wars. Sadly, I think that in few years IBM will make sure that only wars will be internal turf wars between different departments. Decision to drop something like btrfs will be based on which VP has better political game skills, and people working on it won’t have much saying in it. I’d love to be wrong tho, as redhat is one of the most important Linux project in the history, and it’ll be sad if it ends like that.
    - znpy 6y ago
      > Redhat is still managed as geeky project, where you have tech wars. are you red hat employee to be able to tell that or is it just a speculation ?