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> Time to leave before he cracks the country in two irrevocably. hasn't this already happened? It'll take a long time to recover the damage done to foreign po

> Time to leave before he cracks the country in two irrevocably. hasn't this already happened? It'll take a long time to recover the damage done to foreign policy. even worse is the division, which was already present thanks to how distant people are if they are a few income brackets apart. he really knew how to worsen all this and make the chaos work for him. whoever repairs the damage in the coming years has their work cut out. maybe we've learned something as a collective? (I don't think so because while humans are smart humanity is the worst)

WillPostForFood 6y ago
It'll take a long time to recover the damage done to foreign policy. It doesn’t take too long to mobilize the troops and get back to active war in the Middle East.
- orwin 6y ago
  Nah, but the Iran deal is almost dead, the US lost the leadership in the TPP, and although India, the Philippines, Korea, Japan and Australia played well, the CCP grabbed more power than ever in this trade deal. The CCP also managed to take control of eastern Africa and managed to make an indian ocean trade route that COMPLETELY avoid India. Well done. Also during the squabble between Trump and Kim-Jun-Un, the CCP just send 4000 troups in 16 different location around the Indian ocean, to "secure their investment". TBH i'm glad there is a little competition to the US, and that the CCP successfully outplayed the US on a diplomatic standpoint, but please don't conflate foreign policy and war. War is such a small part of foreign policy overall.
  - netsharc 6y ago
    I think the poster you're replying to is just regurgitating the common right-wing talking point that Obama was a war-monger, and that Trump did not start any new wars. (Counterpoint: Under Trump, air strikes rules of engagement got loosened, and more civilians died: https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2020/Rising%20Civilian%20Death%20Toll%20in%20Afghanistan_Costs%20of%20War_Dec%207%202020.pdf https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/20... ). On the topic of foreign policy fuck-ups, another consequence of Trump is that countries about to do deals with the USA under Biden will ask, "So, will this deal be undone in when the next administration comes to power?" and will be more hesistant or they'll manage to get a better bargain because of the US's loss of reputation.

WillPostForFood 6y ago

It'll take a long time to recover the damage done to foreign policy. It doesn’t take too long to mobilize the troops and get back to active war in the Middle East.

orwin 6y ago
Nah, but the Iran deal is almost dead, the US lost the leadership in the TPP, and although India, the Philippines, Korea, Japan and Australia played well, the CCP grabbed more power than ever in this trade deal. The CCP also managed to take control of eastern Africa and managed to make an indian ocean trade route that COMPLETELY avoid India. Well done. Also during the squabble between Trump and Kim-Jun-Un, the CCP just send 4000 troups in 16 different location around the Indian ocean, to "secure their investment". TBH i'm glad there is a little competition to the US, and that the CCP successfully outplayed the US on a diplomatic standpoint, but please don't conflate foreign policy and war. War is such a small part of foreign policy overall.
- netsharc 6y ago
  I think the poster you're replying to is just regurgitating the common right-wing talking point that Obama was a war-monger, and that Trump did not start any new wars. (Counterpoint: Under Trump, air strikes rules of engagement got loosened, and more civilians died: https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2020/Rising%20Civilian%20Death%20Toll%20in%20Afghanistan_Costs%20of%20War_Dec%207%202020.pdf https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/20... ). On the topic of foreign policy fuck-ups, another consequence of Trump is that countries about to do deals with the USA under Biden will ask, "So, will this deal be undone in when the next administration comes to power?" and will be more hesistant or they'll manage to get a better bargain because of the US's loss of reputation.