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Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms
- raunakdag 6y agoLinks involving MDMA, LSD, and shrooms often get upvoted to the top of HN. Is there anywhere to read the consensus on news, both legal and scientific, on what’s the current status of psychedelics and recreational drugs worldwide?
- circlevvaves 6y agoMaybe not the user experience you're intending, but the The Vaults of Erowid is a decent start.
- redisman 6y agoOne of the best and most unique web sites I've ever visited also. It's 90's classic internet but nothing has come along to do things it does better.
- piva00 6y agoOne of the most educative ones for drug users as well. Trip reports were always an interesting read, being aware of dosage and effects, reading from others' bad experiences to be avoided. Erowid is massively educational if you got any interest in psychedelics or mind-altering substances in general.
- maedla 6y agoReading that as a teenager is what got me interested in psychedelics in the first place. It's great.
- will_pseudonym 6y ago- MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies) https://maps.org/ https://maps.org/ - Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic & Consciousness Research https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/ https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/
- walrus01 6y agothe historical links between the sf bay area early technology/microcomputer scene, and recreational psychedelic substances are quite old... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WELL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WELL there's a large venn diagram overlap between some of the earliest members there at the WELL (and, for instance, the people who founded burning man), and the california tech industry.
- DanBC 6y agoFrom the UK Royal College of Psychiatrists: https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/members/divisions/london/londiv---newsletter-winter-18-19-final.pdf?sfvrsn=f6788c18_2 https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/members/divisi... https://elearning.rcpsych.ac.uk/learningmodules/psychedelicdrugtherapyinps.aspx https://elearning.rcpsych.ac.uk/learningmodules/psychedelicd... https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/members/sigs/spirituality-spsig/ben-sessa-from-sacred-plants-to-psychotherapy.pdf?sfvrsn=d1bd0269_2 https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/members/sigs/s... https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/events/presentations/webinars/members%27-webinar-celebrating-congress-nutt-david.pdf?sfvrsn=b6e72a32_2 https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/events/present...
- therealx 6y agoAlso not on the scientific end, but if you search Reddit within specefic sub's dedicated toward the mental difficulties they are aiming to change, you'll find healthy discussion of the developments and personal experiances. Avoid /r/drugs and all those.
- raunakdag 6y agoAny specific subs you’d recommend? I enjoy /r/drugs occasionally because of the interesting stories that I can live vicariously through, but I’m interested in learning more.
- alexilliamson 6y agoThe book How To Change Your Mind has a great deal of the history and current state of the science.
- vmchale 6y agoPsychedelics are sometimes recreational but they can do more.
- Merman_Mike 6y agoAre there accounts of what it's like to use psilocybin in a clinical setting? I'm imagining tripping in a therapist's office. Doesn't sound very pleasant.
- redisman 6y agoStructurally it's something like cognitive behavioral therapy I'm sure. The doses probably won't be high enough to be tripping much?
- TheAceOfHearts 6y agoNot psilocybin, but this exact topic is covered in the book DMT: The Spirit Molecule, by Dr. Rick Strassman. My memory is a bit fuzzy on his exact points, but the clinical setting was definitely found to have a detrimental effect on the experience.
- mg794613 6y agoYeah not all subjects responded negatively, but I do believe a majority did, in the lesser happy sessions. I do think they took care of creating 'set and setting' more.
- mbesto 6y agoCheck out https://maps.org/ https://maps.org/ Therapy while "tripping" is very different then the "recreational way". Remember, set and setting are important.
- idclip 6y agoNot clinical, but meditative: I use mushrooms sometimes (rarely, very carefully) while meditating. They tend to stimulate the area around the vagus nerve - and since meditation is partly frustration, that in turn triggers “uncomfortable” memories. Also, they seem to smoothen nervous activity? Meditating with closed eyes, often the “black net if colored dots” i see when im sober gets a new more fluid attribute, less choppy. More often than not, intense crying ensues, and quite a bit of unconscious material surfaces and get confronted. One drawback to “scoring mushrooms” for emotional healing is quality is inconsistent - I imagine consistent quality and able hands could greatly help traumatized individuals .. its not a trip in the hedonistic sense, its quite frankly aching to a religious experience
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- flyGuyOnTheSly 6y ago>allowing them to possess and use psilocybin for personal training without fear of prosecution under the country's drug laws. There are literally hundreds of websites that will mail you magic mushroom spores, live magic mushroom mycelium, magic mushroom growing kits where you just add water and wait, and dried magic mushrooms. I have never heard of any of them so much as being hassled let alone prosecuted for selling any of those products. It's pretty safe to say magic mushrooms are quasi decriminalized in Canada right now.
- intotheabyss 6y agoYeah I get text messages from weed dispensaries in BC for dried mushroom deals.
- Scoundreller 6y agoOh Canada. Where the natural way is illegal, but the synthetic way with designer psilocybin analogues is totally legal!
- sgift 6y agoNature doesn't care about us. Natural is not inherently better than synthetic. Maybe you have a better point to support your position?
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoHis position seems to be that the law is nonsensical. If you can buy synthetics but can't grow your own that does seem to support his point.
- bigbubba 6y ago> designer psilocybin analogues Is that what 'dried mushrooms' means in Canada?
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- standardUser 6y agoI just hope the older generations who adamantly and mindlessly insisted that "all drugs are bad" live long enough to feel the deep shame they deserve for causing so much harm and preventing so much joy and much-needed help to so many millions and millions of people.
- marpstar 6y agoBut what information was accessible to them to change their mind? They wouldn't have seen headlines like this unless their local newspaper chose to run the article. They wouldn't have been able to go searching for this information without going to a library. I'm not defending their stance, but I think it's easy to forget that we have a lot more information thrown at us in a given day than they probably had in a decade.
- standardUser 6y agoTrue, but we are not talking about 100% of the over 60 crowd. We're talking about maybe 65% give or take. There were opportunities for people to expand their perspectives. Many took those opportunities, most did not, and as the evidence mounted over the decades, the rate at which those generations shifted their opinions was embarrassingly slow (and came at a tremendous cost of human suffering, while conferring them no benefit).
- foxtr0t 6y agoThere was a lot of scientific information about psychedelics from the 50s and 60s. Illegalization and stigmatization of psychedelics was largely political and antagonistic towards the scientific community that was doing actual research. Also anyone curious enough to try out psychedelics will realize they're very different from narcotics. In the US there was always a subculture that accepted use of psychedelics, information passing through books, writings, unofficial journals etc. So to say the information wasn't accessible just isn't true. It may have been hidden, but if it was it was in plain sight and to anyone curious this world was easily accessible and accepting.
- carapace 6y agoYour vindictiveness harshes my mellow. Forgive them. The magic isn't in the mushroom, it's in the love, compassion, forgiveness, and gratitude that [can] emerge naturally when the mushroom god addles your brain chemistry.
- degyves 6y agoI'm native indigenous from Oaxaca, Mexico, home of several sacred ceremonies with magic mushrooms and other plants from millennia. I'd like to share that our Native Nations do not give permission for scientific research of magic mushrooms outside our culture. This is not an egoistic stand, but it is for your own safety. Sacred plants on pharma and marketing industries hands will only create more damage than good. If you are interested to learn about sacred plants you must learn respect from native nations and come, live here and share for a time, then a request to research can be asked to the community.
- armatav 6y agoI think these things grow in many more places than yours.
- degyves 6y agoGrowing anywhere is not enough reason to use something. A lot of things are available anywhere but not all of these will be safe for your community. Sacred plants are more complex than the individual impact. It has consequences on your society and this is why its management is by law restricted to native nations.
- hn_asker 6y agoThere is wisdom in communities that use sacred plants. I hope one day western culture will realize this respect for communities such as yours but also across the world. So much of western culture is based on money and consumption. It really is the root of western ills.
- hn_asker 6y agoThe factors contributing to the rise of psychadelics are due to the "push" away from western practice of treating mental illness with books like "Anatomy of an epidemic" by Whitaker and screenings like https://medicatingnormal.com/watch/ https://medicatingnormal.com/watch/.
- PEOPLEgetoff 6y agoInteresting and impressive move! Doesn’t that type of mushroom grow in fields where cattle poop?
- okareaman 6y agoI did 3 sessions of MDMA therapy with a therapist in the underground community in Santa Cruz in the 90's, which later became the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) https://maps.org/ https://maps.org/ who now work with veterans with PTSD. I had experience with psychedelics, but none with MDMA. All I can say is ymmv. I was underwhelmed by the experience. Later I would go on to do CBT, DBT and Wisemind, and CPT [1] for PTSD and those actually worked really well. I think MDMA combined with those therapies might have been even better. CPT was particularly helpful to confront the abuse I suffered. [1] Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectic Behavioral Therapy & Wisemind, Cognitive Processing Therapy