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> > It’s not like anyone will be forced to use another AppStore if he wants to stay on the apple one for security! Up until some app you need moves to another

> > It’s not like anyone will be forced to use another AppStore if he wants to stay on the apple one for security! Up until some app you need moves to another store. Then the choice becomes do without or use another app store to get what you need. I don't want to have to shop for iOS apps at the Amazon, Google, and Microsoft stores, each with their own app policies, billing systems, etc... not to mention some other AppStores from some vendors I've never heard of. For as much as Facebook gets beat up the reality is, it is still popular with people like my parents and other family members. Right now Facebook is not happy about the coming tracking restrictions that Apple wants to apply. Do we not think that Facebook would be the first app to jump ship to a place where Apple rules won't apply to them and drag a lot of people with them into these new AppStores? For some people saying you can't use the Facebook or some other social media app is not an answer. I am not torn on this at all and that's coming from someone who makes the majority of their income from selling iOS apps. Don't get me wrong I'm happy to only have to pay 15% now rather than 30% but for me, that is still worth the cost for what I get from the overall experience of making and selling apps for iOS and knowing that someone is looking out for my interests as an iOS user. edit: typos

dannyw 6y ago
How would you feel if Apple copied your app, and got to keep 100% of the profits while charging you 30%? See: Spotify.
- davidjade 6y ago
  I'd feel about the same as I would if anyone copied my apps and took away business from me - not happy. But if you're trying to point out that it is somehow unfair that Apple has a special position that they can do this and not pay 30% to anyone, well what makes you think that I can move to another iOS app store and compete with their version in their app store by going somewhere else? I certainly don't think I would fair very well. Another AppStore doesn't change that reality. So are you suggesting that Apple should not be allow to develop and sell apps they make (even if they are doing what my apps do)? Anyone can always come along and build a better/cheaper mousetrap than I have, that's just reality.
  - williamscales 6y ago
    I think there’s a case to be made you might do better if you could offer your product for cheaper on an alternate app store. Price is a powerful incentive and if you offered it at, say, 6.99/mo instead of 9.99/mo that could bring many folks over.
- judge2020 6y ago
  It's a stretch to say that Apple copied Spotify when they had already cornered the online music market years before they released the iPhone - Apple Music is just a subscription to that library of music (of course, licensing prohibiting some songs from being on it).
  - burnte 6y ago
    They've done it to far more companies than just spotify.
Siira 6y ago
I don't understand why you should get all you want. Your demands are unreasonable. And the fragmentation has already happened anyway; Most lucrative services are mostly web-only, including Amazon and new cloud gaming services.

dannyw 6y ago

How would you feel if Apple copied your app, and got to keep 100% of the profits while charging you 30%? See: Spotify.

davidjade 6y ago
I'd feel about the same as I would if anyone copied my apps and took away business from me - not happy. But if you're trying to point out that it is somehow unfair that Apple has a special position that they can do this and not pay 30% to anyone, well what makes you think that I can move to another iOS app store and compete with their version in their app store by going somewhere else? I certainly don't think I would fair very well. Another AppStore doesn't change that reality. So are you suggesting that Apple should not be allow to develop and sell apps they make (even if they are doing what my apps do)? Anyone can always come along and build a better/cheaper mousetrap than I have, that's just reality.
- williamscales 6y ago
  I think there’s a case to be made you might do better if you could offer your product for cheaper on an alternate app store. Price is a powerful incentive and if you offered it at, say, 6.99/mo instead of 9.99/mo that could bring many folks over.
judge2020 6y ago
It's a stretch to say that Apple copied Spotify when they had already cornered the online music market years before they released the iPhone - Apple Music is just a subscription to that library of music (of course, licensing prohibiting some songs from being on it).
- burnte 6y ago
  They've done it to far more companies than just spotify.

Siira 6y ago

I don't understand why you should get all you want. Your demands are unreasonable. And the fragmentation has already happened anyway; Most lucrative services are mostly web-only, including Amazon and new cloud gaming services.