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It’s really hard to argue that Java projects fail at unusual rates, given how much stuff runs on Java.
by ashtonkem 6y ago
It’s really hard to argue that Java projects fail at unusual rates, given how much stuff runs on Java.
- rienbdj 6y agoMaybe not at unusual rates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the rates are high.
- pbourke 6y agoWhen you measure the failure rates of Java projects against the failure rates of Clojure projects, you’re not measuring the failure rates of a language, but rather the general failure rate of software in industry vs the failure rate for a (likely) small, motivated team.
- ashtonkem 6y agoHigher than average? That's very much a [citation needed] moment if I've ever seen one.
- dustingetz 6y agoyou cannot measure anything at all about failure rates by looking at successes
- jimbokun 6y agoBut are the rates for Clojure failures more or less than Java?
- lmilcin 6y agoIt is unlikely you will find apples to apples comparison. What if Clojure projects are more risky by selection bias?
- humourl3ss 6y agoThere is a bit of survivorship bias there, I've seen a lot of Java projects fail, but the blame is only partly on the language, really its the fact that there are so many developers, and the pareto distribution of good to bad java programmers. That and business do not know what the f*ck they are doing. I've seen really good java devs at work, the software they produce is amazing, but the code and structure is incomprehensible, they are masters and I am a mere mortal. Clojure on the other-hand is simpler, higher level, more expressive, but you can still shoot your foot, just like java.