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I get it that HN is all about minimal design, but the need for the parent post (in this and other threads) is a sign that the UI could be improved in this aspec

I get it that HN is all about minimal design, but the need for the parent post (in this and other threads) is a sign that the UI could be improved in this aspect.

pvg 6y ago
This stuff is for performance reasons: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20paginat&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
jxramos 6y ago
Maybe for pagination purposes the multiple pages could be enumerated right after the opening header and we could spot right away the prolific set of comments a given post has attracted. That would make things pretty discoverable right off the bat.
- remarkEon 6y ago
  Yeah this is the right solution. Just add a link to the page numbers at the top of the thread. It's unintrusive, and still follows the minimalist design tenants of this website.
  - mushufasa 6y ago
    or put previous/next links in a line at the start of the comments, instead of just 'more' all the way at the bottom. i wonder if they're constrained because their staff can't maintain the codebase well in the nonstandard arc language, and pg obviously has retired
    - remarkEon 6y ago
      Didn’t realize this was all running on arc. Ironically this will become a pipeline problem.
    - amelius 6y ago
      If the codebase is the problem then the obvious best solution is to write a bot that automatically posts dang's comment, with links to the various pages. :)
      - dontreact 6y ago
        How do we know this isn’t already the solution :)?
    - dang 6y ago
      Oh no—we love arc and we're good at it. Edit: reasonably good.
  - dang 6y ago
    The pagination is only because of performance issues on the server to begin with. Rather than adding extra complexity at the top of the thread, the solution is to improve performance and render the whole page like we used to.
chance_state 6y ago
No. Dang, please do not change the UI.
lawn 6y ago
Meh. It's all just text, why not show everything?
- rozap 6y ago
  Yea, it'd still be smaller than loading a jira ticket or slack
hmall 6y ago
It is a courtesy, there is no real need for the post; the "More" link is quite discoverable. I don't think this extremely minor issue warrants cluttering the UI with additional "page 1 2 3 ..." links at the top.
- sjtindell 6y ago
  Plus one.
- sumedh 6y ago
  > there is no real need for the post; the "More" link is quite discoverable. No its not atleast for me. I just miss it and looks like lot of others miss it as well.
- baq 6y ago
  the more link is so easy to miss that dang thinks every front page post with multiple pages of comments needs a pinned comment with links to next pages.
jrochkind1 6y ago
Yes, everyone knows that, it just hasn't been done yet.
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I get it that HN is all about minimal design, but the need for the parent post (in this and other threads) is a sign that the UI could be improved in this aspect.

pvg 6y ago

This stuff is for performance reasons: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20paginat&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

jxramos 6y ago

Maybe for pagination purposes the multiple pages could be enumerated right after the opening header and we could spot right away the prolific set of comments a given post has attracted. That would make things pretty discoverable right off the bat.

remarkEon 6y ago
Yeah this is the right solution. Just add a link to the page numbers at the top of the thread. It's unintrusive, and still follows the minimalist design tenants of this website.
- mushufasa 6y ago
  or put previous/next links in a line at the start of the comments, instead of just 'more' all the way at the bottom. i wonder if they're constrained because their staff can't maintain the codebase well in the nonstandard arc language, and pg obviously has retired
  - remarkEon 6y ago
    Didn’t realize this was all running on arc. Ironically this will become a pipeline problem.
  - amelius 6y ago
    If the codebase is the problem then the obvious best solution is to write a bot that automatically posts dang's comment, with links to the various pages. :)
    - dontreact 6y ago
      How do we know this isn’t already the solution :)?
  - dang 6y ago
    Oh no—we love arc and we're good at it. Edit: reasonably good.
- dang 6y ago
  The pagination is only because of performance issues on the server to begin with. Rather than adding extra complexity at the top of the thread, the solution is to improve performance and render the whole page like we used to.

chance_state 6y ago

No. Dang, please do not change the UI.

lawn 6y ago

Meh. It's all just text, why not show everything?

rozap 6y ago
Yea, it'd still be smaller than loading a jira ticket or slack

hmall 6y ago

It is a courtesy, there is no real need for the post; the "More" link is quite discoverable. I don't think this extremely minor issue warrants cluttering the UI with additional "page 1 2 3 ..." links at the top.

sjtindell 6y ago
Plus one.
sumedh 6y ago
> there is no real need for the post; the "More" link is quite discoverable. No its not atleast for me. I just miss it and looks like lot of others miss it as well.
baq 6y ago
the more link is so easy to miss that dang thinks every front page post with multiple pages of comments needs a pinned comment with links to next pages.

jrochkind1 6y ago

Yes, everyone knows that, it just hasn't been done yet.

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