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Isn't ASML [0] the leading manufacturer of photolithography machines? They are dutch. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding https://en.wikipedia.org/w

Isn't ASML [0] the leading manufacturer of photolithography machines? They are dutch. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding

ichbinwiederda 6y ago
Beat me to it. Also Sweden is leading in tech, how exactly?
- _Microft 6y ago
  They have number dispensers at the meat or bread counters in supermarkets which is quite neat. You do not have to wait in a queue and can do your other grocery shoppings until the display shows your number. ;)
  - jacknews 6y ago
    lol
  - Semaphor 6y ago
    We have that in Germany as well in some places (CITTI Markt, Northern Germany)
    - kuschku 6y ago
      Yeah but CITTI is the only one to actually do modern stuff (although coop/Sky tried out a few as well, but that ended with the REWE acquisition). And outside of SH, it's even worse.
      - Semaphor 6y ago
        There is a rewe here using e-ink price signs. But it’s privately owned so that doesn’t really count ;) And at least for my normal rewe, it would make no sense to have those numbers, the average is below 1 person who’s in front of me at the counter.
brmgb 6y ago
Yes, as a European, the past two decades were maddening. Europe had no vision concerning strategic industrial assets. Advanced steel production was sold to India. Key assets in the energy sector were pillaged by GE. The UK sold a leader in chip design to Japan and despite having ASML being at the forefront of photolithography there still is no credible fab in the EU. The pandemic really highlighted some major shortcomings regarding the EU production capacity. These are major failures. Hopefully, as this was mostly due to constant sabotages by the UK, the situation will improve now that they are gone. Sadly, their constant push for enlargement can't really be undone and might still doom the union in the end.
- ducktective 6y ago
  Can you elaborate on "UK's sabotages"?
  - brmgb 6y ago
    But certainly, the UK has been against any kind of concerted efforts by the EU which might go further than the single market for as long as they were a member. They lobbied heavily to be left out of the common agricultural policy and tried to diminish as much as they coud, were against Maastricht and were not a member of the Eurozone, pushed heavily for enlargement ensuring they would be no political cohesion in the union. Leon Brittan as a trade commissioner was a staunch opponent to any kind of state aid in the 90s and single handly significantly weakened the European industry. Don't get me wrong, I like England. Great country, nice culture, shit partner. As far as I am concerned, Brexit is probably the best thing to ever happen to the EU.
    - imtringued 6y ago
      I agree. The UK never really wanted to be part of the EU. It only wanted to cherrypick the best parts and nothing else. Once they decided to leave I wasn't thinking a single thought about the EU crumbling but rather "good riddance". Other than the northern Ireland dilemma it is a win win situation. Of course the UK will take a hit in the short term but failing to prepare for that is on them. It was their decision.

Isn't ASML [0] the leading manufacturer of photolithography machines? They are dutch. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding

ichbinwiederda 6y ago

Beat me to it. Also Sweden is leading in tech, how exactly?

_Microft 6y ago
They have number dispensers at the meat or bread counters in supermarkets which is quite neat. You do not have to wait in a queue and can do your other grocery shoppings until the display shows your number. ;)
- jacknews 6y ago
  lol
- Semaphor 6y ago
  We have that in Germany as well in some places (CITTI Markt, Northern Germany)
  - kuschku 6y ago
    Yeah but CITTI is the only one to actually do modern stuff (although coop/Sky tried out a few as well, but that ended with the REWE acquisition). And outside of SH, it's even worse.
    - Semaphor 6y ago
      There is a rewe here using e-ink price signs. But it’s privately owned so that doesn’t really count ;) And at least for my normal rewe, it would make no sense to have those numbers, the average is below 1 person who’s in front of me at the counter.

brmgb 6y ago

Yes, as a European, the past two decades were maddening. Europe had no vision concerning strategic industrial assets. Advanced steel production was sold to India. Key assets in the energy sector were pillaged by GE. The UK sold a leader in chip design to Japan and despite having ASML being at the forefront of photolithography there still is no credible fab in the EU. The pandemic really highlighted some major shortcomings regarding the EU production capacity. These are major failures. Hopefully, as this was mostly due to constant sabotages by the UK, the situation will improve now that they are gone. Sadly, their constant push for enlargement can't really be undone and might still doom the union in the end.

ducktective 6y ago
Can you elaborate on "UK's sabotages"?
- brmgb 6y ago
  But certainly, the UK has been against any kind of concerted efforts by the EU which might go further than the single market for as long as they were a member. They lobbied heavily to be left out of the common agricultural policy and tried to diminish as much as they coud, were against Maastricht and were not a member of the Eurozone, pushed heavily for enlargement ensuring they would be no political cohesion in the union. Leon Brittan as a trade commissioner was a staunch opponent to any kind of state aid in the 90s and single handly significantly weakened the European industry. Don't get me wrong, I like England. Great country, nice culture, shit partner. As far as I am concerned, Brexit is probably the best thing to ever happen to the EU.
  - imtringued 6y ago
    I agree. The UK never really wanted to be part of the EU. It only wanted to cherrypick the best parts and nothing else. Once they decided to leave I wasn't thinking a single thought about the EU crumbling but rather "good riddance". Other than the northern Ireland dilemma it is a win win situation. Of course the UK will take a hit in the short term but failing to prepare for that is on them. It was their decision.