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Website designers could just not have cookies. This is the original intent of the law.
by selfhoster11 6y ago
Website designers could just not have cookies. This is the original intent of the law.
- playpause 6y agoEvidently that is not happening, whatever the intent.
- marcosdumay 6y agoWell, if trouble-free usability is advantageous to you, you can have a competitive advantage by doing just that.
- chriswarbo 6y agoThis is due to two reasons: - Overly-defensive company policies, which ask for consent "just in case" - A bandwagon effect of "everyone else is doing it" The first is quite understandable, and has been policy at every company I've worked for/with. One decided to remove all cookies rather than adding a consent popup; the only cookie we used was for "remember me" on login, so we changed the default to false and put a note next to the tick box. Every other company I've worked for/with has decided to add a popup instead; unsurprisingly, they were also setting a whole bunch of tracking and adware cookies. The problems I have with the "bandwagon" are that (a) popups are more obvious and memorable than not having popups, which biases the bandwagon effect towards the obnoxious behaviour (availability heuristic); and (b) users seeing all these popups think they must be necessary, and misattribute their cause (e.g. thinking GDPR requires them, rather than companies either playing it safe or refusing to stop surveillance).
- Mauricebranagh 6y agoNot designing bloated website designs I think you mean
- jlokier 6y agoNo, it's really about the tracking cookies. You can have as much design as you like. Bloated website designs don't need tracking cookies, and tracking cookies are the only type that needs explicit consent.
- fhood 6y agoCookies aren't inherently evil or anything. They are a really important tool for a lot of situations. It's misuse that is the problem, persistent client-side storage is actually pretty critical for some stuff.
- chriswarbo 6y agoConsent is implied for everything needed to deliver a service to the user (e.g. cookies for a shopping cart, local storage for gaming high-scores, etc.). Anything that's not required to provide users with the service they're after must either not track them or ask for explicit consent before doing so.
- selfhoster11 6y agoThey may be critical to core functionality of the site. Analytics is not core functionality of the site.
- nicbou 6y agoAnalytics play a vital role in running a website. We can't pretend they don't and hope businesses will stop using them.
- selfhoster11 6y agoAnalytics plays a key role in maximising profits, which is not vital. For all other feedback, the user can just be asked about their opinion.
- nicbou 6y agoAt a previous job, a significant percentage of the feedback we received was about the feedback prompt itself. Users just want to get what they came for and then leave the site. They rarely do anything that doesn't directly benefit them, unless they're really happy, or really angry. For everything else, there's analytics. Analytics answer questions like "is this content worth translating", "is that element a good use of screen real estate", "is this browser worth supporting", "how do people find this page (and what are they looking for)". You can't get that out of a feedback form. > which is not vital Not every website is run as a charity.
- XCSme 6y agoPlus, biggest problem with feedback: users don't know what they want.