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Would you want the US government to ban Twitter or Facebook for spreading propaganda and/or farm user data? In fact, would you want the US to be more like Chin

Would you want the US government to ban Twitter or Facebook for spreading propaganda and/or farm user data? In fact, would you want the US to be more like China?

Supermancho 6y ago
> Would you want the US government to ban Twitter or Facebook for spreading propaganda and/or farm user data? Yes. If there is determined to be harm, I see no reason to protect them. > Would you want the US to be more like China? Governments fulfill similar roles across time and space. It's unavoidable that there is overlap. Please clarify what you are trying to imply.
- manuelabeledo 6y ago
  > Yes. If there is determined to be harm, I see no reason to protect them. But should the US government, given the current developments, ban Twitter and/or Facebook? That is what I'm asking. Because they are quite literally doing the same as TikTok. Now, is TikTok spying for China? Except for a few reports, there is no proof of it. In fact, the US government would not ban TikTok if they sell their business to US companies. So either TikTok does not spy on their customers for China, or they do, and the US government wants to have control over data illegally harvested. Either way, forcing TikTok hand is not a move made to protect US citizens.
  - Supermancho 6y ago
    > But should the US government, given the current developments, ban Twitter and/or Facebook? Twitter and Facebook are blocked in China. Going from a philosophical question to a current policy question, the existing context has to be taken into account. There is no equivalent reason for banning the apps. > Because they are quite literally doing the same as TikTok. I think they (Facebook/Twitter) are doing very different things from Tik Tok right now. They are certainly a vector for the US states/feds to mine and use data (as has been admitted and demonstrated). In the way the data is available to a government, there is an equivalence with Tik Tok. > Now, is TikTok spying for China? I define spying narrowly. I don't think it's "spying" but the infrastructure of Tik Tok presents an information vulnerability to the USA, which represents a harm. This is the basis of my justification as I am making the distinction. > Either way, forcing TikTok hand is not a move made to protect US citizens. I think it is a move that protects US citizens. The official justification is paper thin Trump revenge tactics (not racism, imo). Given, I give no credence to most of what Trump says, I don't care about the justification anyway.

Would you want the US government to ban Twitter or Facebook for spreading propaganda and/or farm user data? In fact, would you want the US to be more like China?

Supermancho 6y ago

> Would you want the US government to ban Twitter or Facebook for spreading propaganda and/or farm user data? Yes. If there is determined to be harm, I see no reason to protect them. > Would you want the US to be more like China? Governments fulfill similar roles across time and space. It's unavoidable that there is overlap. Please clarify what you are trying to imply.

manuelabeledo 6y ago
> Yes. If there is determined to be harm, I see no reason to protect them. But should the US government, given the current developments, ban Twitter and/or Facebook? That is what I'm asking. Because they are quite literally doing the same as TikTok. Now, is TikTok spying for China? Except for a few reports, there is no proof of it. In fact, the US government would not ban TikTok if they sell their business to US companies. So either TikTok does not spy on their customers for China, or they do, and the US government wants to have control over data illegally harvested. Either way, forcing TikTok hand is not a move made to protect US citizens.
- Supermancho 6y ago
  > But should the US government, given the current developments, ban Twitter and/or Facebook? Twitter and Facebook are blocked in China. Going from a philosophical question to a current policy question, the existing context has to be taken into account. There is no equivalent reason for banning the apps. > Because they are quite literally doing the same as TikTok. I think they (Facebook/Twitter) are doing very different things from Tik Tok right now. They are certainly a vector for the US states/feds to mine and use data (as has been admitted and demonstrated). In the way the data is available to a government, there is an equivalence with Tik Tok. > Now, is TikTok spying for China? I define spying narrowly. I don't think it's "spying" but the infrastructure of Tik Tok presents an information vulnerability to the USA, which represents a harm. This is the basis of my justification as I am making the distinction. > Either way, forcing TikTok hand is not a move made to protect US citizens. I think it is a move that protects US citizens. The official justification is paper thin Trump revenge tactics (not racism, imo). Given, I give no credence to most of what Trump says, I don't care about the justification anyway.