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I suspect that practical matters will interfere with widespread adoption of encrypted DNS. In my state, Comcast is going to start charging heavy bandwidth user

I suspect that practical matters will interfere with widespread adoption of encrypted DNS. In my state, Comcast is going to start charging heavy bandwidth users extra. After a few people get surprise bills, I suspect that lawmakers will require that internet providers break down a bill by application.

joshspankit 6y ago
After seeing similar things throughout the years, I feel like that is very doubtful. When tested, the push for privacy is much stronger than the push for cost.
api 6y ago
I’d just get Starlink. Even if the deal was worse in terms of cost it would be a way to say fuck you to the ISP. Without some way to do that ISPs will not be able to get away with such customer hostile behavior.
- mschuster91 6y ago
  > Without some way to do that ISPs will not be able to get away with such customer hostile behavior. I guess it won't take long until the first community or HOA decides to ban Starlink dish installations for faked "optical nuisance" issues.
  - xxpor 6y ago
    The fcc will have something to say about that. They've already banned rules against antennas and sat dishes for TV.
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    Faked? What other reason would an HOA have to ban them?
    - supertrope 6y ago
      A cable company offers to wire the neighborhood saving the builder some money. In exchange the HOA setup by the builder bans satellite dishes. In more annoying cases the HOA negotiates a group plan included in your HOA assessment bill; that really stifles competition because paying for an alternative on top of cable is irrational. The FCC banned satellite dish bans back in the 90s. Apartment building operators still do this scam. The incumbent cable company will share revenue in exchange for the landlord refusing any competitor wiring. Rent seeking in ISP markets is peanuts compared with zoning though. If real estate was much less supply constrained landlords would never fathom annoying a customer with inferior utilities.
selfhoster11 6y ago
Mobile OSes already support per-application network usage breakdowns. This is an OS-level feature, and not an ISP-level feature.

joshspankit 6y ago

After seeing similar things throughout the years, I feel like that is very doubtful. When tested, the push for privacy is much stronger than the push for cost.

api 6y ago

I’d just get Starlink. Even if the deal was worse in terms of cost it would be a way to say fuck you to the ISP. Without some way to do that ISPs will not be able to get away with such customer hostile behavior.

mschuster91 6y ago
> Without some way to do that ISPs will not be able to get away with such customer hostile behavior. I guess it won't take long until the first community or HOA decides to ban Starlink dish installations for faked "optical nuisance" issues.
- xxpor 6y ago
  The fcc will have something to say about that. They've already banned rules against antennas and sat dishes for TV.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  Faked? What other reason would an HOA have to ban them?
  - supertrope 6y ago
    A cable company offers to wire the neighborhood saving the builder some money. In exchange the HOA setup by the builder bans satellite dishes. In more annoying cases the HOA negotiates a group plan included in your HOA assessment bill; that really stifles competition because paying for an alternative on top of cable is irrational. The FCC banned satellite dish bans back in the 90s. Apartment building operators still do this scam. The incumbent cable company will share revenue in exchange for the landlord refusing any competitor wiring. Rent seeking in ISP markets is peanuts compared with zoning though. If real estate was much less supply constrained landlords would never fathom annoying a customer with inferior utilities.

selfhoster11 6y ago

Mobile OSes already support per-application network usage breakdowns. This is an OS-level feature, and not an ISP-level feature.