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East Palo Alto and San Jose could be either from pop-density, or from relative # of poor people.

ivankirigin 6y ago
And age, race, types of jobs, family structure, trust in authority, education, and probably more. San Carlos is white, rich, and old. East Palo Alto it not.
- an_opabinia 6y ago
  Of course. The real scandal is how bean counting has failed millions of Californians. Are that many people really eking out an existence so marginal, it has no impact on prices for homes, equities, goods and services? Or is there something wrong with what we’re measuring?
- babesh 6y ago
  It is dense, multi family housing and having to work at jobs that expose you to other people. It isn’t directly race or age.
  - ketzo 6y ago
    Well, yeah, those are the factors for which race and age (and wealth) serve a pretty direct proxy in the U.S.
    - babesh 6y ago
      It is flawed lens. For instance there are poor Asian subgroups and there are poor in otherwise rich groups.
sujinge9 6y ago
Probably both
- spikels 6y ago
  Nine months into this it would be nice if we had good data on the risk factors of transmission. I know it’s a tricky virus to trace but shouldn’t we have better info on which activities demographics, etc are the most risky by now?
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    We do know the risk factors. It's a respiratory disease that spreads when people who are breathing are near each other. We don't need a random control trial to tell us that practicing with your brass band can spread it. The solution is to stay very far from everyone until the disease is wiped out. Only very intelligent libertarian contrary Americans think we don't have the information we need.
    - s1artibartfast 6y ago
      That is not very helpful advice when you have to manage risk while trying to eat, work, live, and stay healthy. Stats certainly exist on where some of the 16,000+ cases in San Mateo were transmitted.
      - jeffbee 6y ago
        Exactly what information do you lack? If you are hungry eat at home. Work at home if possible. Exercise at home. "Live" is too vague to address.
        s1artibartfast 6y ago
        You are substituting instructions for information. I lack information. For example: Has anyone in San Mateo caught covid eating at a restaurant? How many? Has anyone in San Mateo caught covid grocery shopping? How Many? Has anyone in San Mateo Caught covid exercising outside? How many? Has anyone in San Mateo Caught covid at school? How many?
        6y ago
jacobolus 6y ago
Depends substantially on how many people have to work face to face with strangers, and how large households are. Everyone living in a multi-generational household with e.g. grocery store clerks is at significantly higher risk than a couple of childless yuppies working from home.

And age, race, types of jobs, family structure, trust in authority, education, and probably more. San Carlos is white, rich, and old. East Palo Alto it not.

an_opabinia 6y ago
Of course. The real scandal is how bean counting has failed millions of Californians. Are that many people really eking out an existence so marginal, it has no impact on prices for homes, equities, goods and services? Or is there something wrong with what we’re measuring?
babesh 6y ago
It is dense, multi family housing and having to work at jobs that expose you to other people. It isn’t directly race or age.
- ketzo 6y ago
  Well, yeah, those are the factors for which race and age (and wealth) serve a pretty direct proxy in the U.S.
  - babesh 6y ago
    It is flawed lens. For instance there are poor Asian subgroups and there are poor in otherwise rich groups.

sujinge9 6y ago

Probably both

spikels 6y ago
Nine months into this it would be nice if we had good data on the risk factors of transmission. I know it’s a tricky virus to trace but shouldn’t we have better info on which activities demographics, etc are the most risky by now?
- jeffbee 6y ago
  We do know the risk factors. It's a respiratory disease that spreads when people who are breathing are near each other. We don't need a random control trial to tell us that practicing with your brass band can spread it. The solution is to stay very far from everyone until the disease is wiped out. Only very intelligent libertarian contrary Americans think we don't have the information we need.
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    That is not very helpful advice when you have to manage risk while trying to eat, work, live, and stay healthy. Stats certainly exist on where some of the 16,000+ cases in San Mateo were transmitted.
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      Exactly what information do you lack? If you are hungry eat at home. Work at home if possible. Exercise at home. "Live" is too vague to address.
      - s1artibartfast 6y ago
        You are substituting instructions for information. I lack information. For example: Has anyone in San Mateo caught covid eating at a restaurant? How many? Has anyone in San Mateo caught covid grocery shopping? How Many? Has anyone in San Mateo Caught covid exercising outside? How many? Has anyone in San Mateo Caught covid at school? How many?
        6y ago

jacobolus 6y ago

Depends substantially on how many people have to work face to face with strangers, and how large households are. Everyone living in a multi-generational household with e.g. grocery store clerks is at significantly higher risk than a couple of childless yuppies working from home.