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Don't panic! Don't worry! China is more than willing to pick up the ocean destroying slack from these 14 nations! They're already doing around 80% of the damage
by Apes 6y ago
Don't panic! Don't worry! China is more than willing to pick up the ocean destroying slack from these 14 nations! They're already doing around 80% of the damage, how could they not just do a bit more?
- Darmody 6y agoIt's crazy how activists never point at the ones who do the most damage.
- PradeetPatel 6y agoCan finger pointing really solve anything though? Starting a wider conversation and raising awareness will probably help a lot more in the long run.
- wincy 6y agoI don’t know what a China embargo would look like, but I know that any first world government who tried it would find themselves promptly removed from power and a newer Chinese friendly government installed amongst rabid cries for new iPhones and gadgets.
- zests 6y ago"China embargo" could be replaced with many other terms. Here's another to try on for size: > I don’t know what a Global Warming Plan would look like, but I know that any first world government who tried it would find themselves promptly removed from power and a newer consumer/polluter friendly government installed amongst rabid cries for new iPhones and maintaining current niceties of life.
- AnthonyMouse 6y agoEmbargoes aren't used much anymore. Countries use tariffs. Which the US has shown are actually quite effective against China, because China has a legitimate fear of competitors springing up elsewhere since once they exist they may continue to exist even after the tariffs are gone. So they respond by devaluing their currency to remain competitive even against the tariffs, which is equivalent to paying the tariffs rather than passing the cost on to the customers. But then your own citizens don't feel the pinch from the tariffs and you can maintain them indefinitely, or even increase them, until you get what you're asking for. That assumes you're a large enough player to get them to respond that way, but smaller players can form coalitions.
- jcranmer 6y agoAsk Australia about China's recent embargo, and then argue that embargoes aren't used anymore.
- cmdshiftf4 6y ago>I don’t know what a China embargo would look like, but I know that any first world government who tried it would find themselves promptly removed from power and a newer Chinese friendly government installed amongst rabid cries for new iPhones and gadgets. Bingo. I mean, right this minute we're all ignoring a literal concentration camp in China in the name of not upsetting our supply of cheap gadgets. Good luck getting support over something less tangible.
- Kluny 6y agoChina is indeed doing most of the damage, but you may not realize that they're actually aware of it and they do care. China is also doing the most research into recycling and sustainability and making the most progress. It's a big country, a lot of things can happen all at once.
- bpodgursky 6y agoChina cares about recycling and sustainability of their own resources. There's very little evidence they care that their fishing fleets are destroying fish stocks halfway across the world.
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- okButPhysics9 6y agoMeanwhile the American military burns up the vast majority of fossil fuels. So you know let’s make sure China is singled out for being utter shit. “There’s a warning sign on the road ahead, a lotta people saying we’d be better off dead. Don’t feel like satan, but I am to them. So I try to forget it any way I can.” Nation state semantics will never paper over the fact humans everywhere are doing this. Grow up, reality.