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You are right. But is not Apple's fault, the long line of chip and computer makers long gone (DEC, Sun, also IBM in the PC Market, etc.) All crushed by the Wint

You are right. But is not Apple's fault, the long line of chip and computer makers long gone (DEC, Sun, also IBM in the PC Market, etc.) All crushed by the Wintel duopoly. Everybody trusted on x86 and specially Intel, to bring us forward, but they stopped innovating at least a decade ago. I'm happy that Apple is showing that the king is naked, I hope that a new wave of ARM based devices (not just from Apple) will influx new life on the PC Market.

goodmachine 6y ago
I hope so too. But please can we never use 'influx' as a verb?
- hyperdimension 6y ago
  I don't know, that's a big ask.
- mromanuk 6y ago
  Sure, but explain me why, please. Probably, I used it as a transliteration, english is my second language :)
  - metalliqaz 6y ago
    I think you meant 'infuse'.
  - theandrewbailey 6y ago
    Every dictionary I can find (or that Google can[0]) doesn't list a verb definition for influx. Maybe you meant "bring" instead? [0] https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%20influx https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%20influx
  - dkdbejwi383 6y ago
    "will bring an influx to" is probably the phrase you're looking for.
- deleted 6y ago
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raxxorrax 6y ago
I think one problem for CPUs specifically is that people plainly just don't care as much about speed anymore. Modern processors are extremely fast. So other metrics like power draw get more prominence. Apple managed to get both with a chip design, but I don't see it as a trend yet. I wouldn't even call it innovative in itself, it is just a very good iteration of CPU tech. I think that is awesome because it challenges other companies again. For performance intensive applications like gaming or CAD, GPUs have become more relevant. There is a lot of special software for physical calculations (lenses, materials, etc.) that require raw CPU power for n-th degree numerical solutions, but these are niches that cannot sustain an industry. My main device I use in private for a lot of development has a standard intel CPU and I only looked at power usage because I knew it would be fast enough. I wanted it to be as silent as possible. Turns out it was indeed fast enough for anything I wanted to do. Maybe I buy a new one in a few years, but it didn't yet fail me in any way.
- jeffbee 6y ago
  Well you’re not totally wrong but the one place where consumers care about raw single threaded performance is the web browser and these new rigs are making huge strides. The M1 browser is remarkably fast and it unlocks new territory in what you can do without bringing the browser to its knees. The new 11th gen Intel laptop part has also opened a big gap between itself and its predecessors and competitors, but it’s not as fast as the M1 and it draws way more power when it’s running. So I think this is an area they still have room to improve and consumers will really notice the benefit of it.
  - Mauricebranagh 6y ago
    Intel 10th gen to 11th Gen is not really that different
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      In many single threaded benchmarks the 11th gen is 50% faster than the 10th. I think it’s a remarkable bump. The Zen3 has also brought a significant leap in single threaded performance, but not on mobile yet.

goodmachine 6y ago

I hope so too. But please can we never use 'influx' as a verb?

hyperdimension 6y ago
I don't know, that's a big ask.
mromanuk 6y ago
Sure, but explain me why, please. Probably, I used it as a transliteration, english is my second language :)
- metalliqaz 6y ago
  I think you meant 'infuse'.
- theandrewbailey 6y ago
  Every dictionary I can find (or that Google can[0]) doesn't list a verb definition for influx. Maybe you meant "bring" instead? [0] https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%20influx https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%20influx
- dkdbejwi383 6y ago
  "will bring an influx to" is probably the phrase you're looking for.
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raxxorrax 6y ago

I think one problem for CPUs specifically is that people plainly just don't care as much about speed anymore. Modern processors are extremely fast. So other metrics like power draw get more prominence. Apple managed to get both with a chip design, but I don't see it as a trend yet. I wouldn't even call it innovative in itself, it is just a very good iteration of CPU tech. I think that is awesome because it challenges other companies again. For performance intensive applications like gaming or CAD, GPUs have become more relevant. There is a lot of special software for physical calculations (lenses, materials, etc.) that require raw CPU power for n-th degree numerical solutions, but these are niches that cannot sustain an industry. My main device I use in private for a lot of development has a standard intel CPU and I only looked at power usage because I knew it would be fast enough. I wanted it to be as silent as possible. Turns out it was indeed fast enough for anything I wanted to do. Maybe I buy a new one in a few years, but it didn't yet fail me in any way.

jeffbee 6y ago
Well you’re not totally wrong but the one place where consumers care about raw single threaded performance is the web browser and these new rigs are making huge strides. The M1 browser is remarkably fast and it unlocks new territory in what you can do without bringing the browser to its knees. The new 11th gen Intel laptop part has also opened a big gap between itself and its predecessors and competitors, but it’s not as fast as the M1 and it draws way more power when it’s running. So I think this is an area they still have room to improve and consumers will really notice the benefit of it.
- Mauricebranagh 6y ago
  Intel 10th gen to 11th Gen is not really that different
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    In many single threaded benchmarks the 11th gen is 50% faster than the 10th. I think it’s a remarkable bump. The Zen3 has also brought a significant leap in single threaded performance, but not on mobile yet.