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If you look at the SEC IPO filing[1], the most recent numbers (Dec 2010) are as follows: * 663M registered accounts * 145M connected users * 8M paying users
by nikcub 16y ago
If you look at the SEC IPO filing[1], the most recent numbers (Dec 2010) are as follows:
* 663M registered accounts
* 145M connected users
* 8M paying users
The 170M number is the most recent update of the 145M connected users number. They define 'connected users' as active within a financial quarter
I have spent the past few hours reading through the SEC filing. Skype is still growing very strongly[3], especially in the key metrics of active (connected) users and paying users (both up 30%)
I think this is a great deal and will work out as well for Microsoft as PayPal did for eBay. See my comment in the other thread about that[2]
As I mentioned in that thread, Skype is not profitable only because they wrote down assets and acquisition costs to the tune of over $350M. Within Microsoft it will profit near $500M this year (my back-of-the-napkin sums by projecting out the old revenue figures with the new growth figures). A PE of 17-19 is not a bad buy, considering the strength of the brand and the large user base.
Skype is probably the largest non-browser web/net application, and likely the second largest social graph after Facebook.
What will be interesting now is the question of if Microsoft will work with Facebook on Skype, or use it as a platform to compete with Facebook.
[1] http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1498209/000119312511056174/ds1a.htm http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1498209/0001193125110...
[2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2531885 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2531885
[3] From their filing: "We have significantly increased both our free and paying users, growing our average monthly connected users by 38% and average monthly paying users by 19%, from the three months ended December 31, 2009 to the three months ended December 31, 2010."
- hessenwolf 16y agoReally only 8 million paying users? That sounds very low... given it is the only online company other than adwords with my credit card details.
- nikcub 16y ago8.8M that made a transaction in that quarter, which if you project forward with the current numbers would equate to 5.8% of active users making a payment not bad in terms of a freemium conversion rate and I think some of it can be explained with: * credits now have a longer expiry date, so you can bulk purchase and hoard credit * US and Canada calling became free * negative network effect of more people using skype = less people that you require the dialout feature to reach
- Dylan16807 16y agoUS and Canada calling became free? As far as I know that only happened for part of 2006. In addition to calling 1-800 numbers being free.
- bvi 16y agoWhat will be interesting now is the question of if Microsoft will work with Facebook on Skype, or use it as a platform to compete with Facebook. I recall reading a few articles on Facebook exploring a partnership with Skype - it certainly would be in Microsoft's best interests to harness Facebook's social graph through Skype. If Facebook decides to roll out its own Skype competitor, that would cause some serious dent to Microsoft's pocket.
- cptskippy 16y ago>They define 'connected users' as active within a financial quarter This number is inflated by the fact that Skype requires you to login periodically and use any credit you have in order to keep it from expiring.