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Which is good from the aspect that if your device is stolen or lost, the finder/thief just can't factory reset it and use it.
by Zenst 6y ago
Which is good from the aspect that if your device is stolen or lost, the finder/thief just can't factory reset it and use it.
- fastball 6y agoWhich is exactly why they do it. Actual customers that buy lots of Apple products and have appreciated how every year iPhones get more and more pointless to steal have been asking for the same for their laptops for years.
- usrusr 6y agoWell, one could solve that just as well with a device that is fully open to the owner and still pointless to steal. By handing out a per-device master reset key that the owner doesn't need for regular operation and thus doesn't have with the device when and where someone might want to steal it.
- spease 6y agoThey could, but open source has a poor track record of making an easy solution for something this comprehensive that a regular user can set up.
- tomjen3 6y agoIf you don't have to use them regularly then people will misplace them.
- imtringued 6y agoApple can still offer an internet based factory reset in addition to the offline factory reset.
- Someone 6y agoThat wouldn’t work for quite a few users. They would lose the reset key and be locked out of their hardware. I think Apple should offer users the option, though, just as they for account recovery (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208072 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208072. I’m not sure that works without _also_ going to Apple’s servers)
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- smichel17 6y agoI don't see why the key couldn't optionally be stored with Apple, or even by default. But it should be possible/easy to manage your key yourself if you want.
- userbinator 6y agoHow is that good? Nearly all other non-electronic products behave based on the fact that the one in physical possession of it is the owner, and that is a notion which has lasted for literally millenia. Make no mistake, this is simply Apple's attempt to gain complete control over its users.
- dodobirdlord 6y agoContainers with locks have existed for a very long time.
- Spooky23 6y agoTry getting a car key replaced sometime. Both my car key and my wife’s were in the same bag when they fell out of a capsized canoe and sunk. Not fun nor cheap. I don’t like it, but the market wants crap like this.
- edoceo 6y agoOr, the market pushback isn't loud enough. (Or financially significant)
- rStar 6y agoapple is a cell phone company now. in the same way that users in the US hate Verizon, ATT etc for rubbing our noses in the fact that we have no choice but to use their service, which frees them up to treat us, the customer, like trash, that’s how anyone paying attention and being honest with themselves now feels about apple. there’s not a sliver of sunlight of a difference between these corporations, and in fact, they enable one another. I wish this weren’t the case, and even if apple didn’t have sycophants populating 80% of this message board it wouldn’t matter. they are beyond having to give a crap about users, technically inclined or otherwise, at this point.
- danielheath 6y agoI mean, that sucks, but surely getting your car stolen sucks considerably more, right? How much less likely do these technologies have to make theft before the hassle to actual owners isn’t worth it?
- Wowfunhappy 6y agoThat makes sense if Activation Lock is turned on. But you should be able to turn it off if you need a fully offline machine.
- Out_of_Characte 6y agoYou never needed apple for that. My laptop can't just be 'factory reset' because the thief would have to flash the bios. without that something as simple as secureboot will prevent reinstalling a different OS.