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> eBike costs an order of magnitude less than a car and is functionally the same range/value as a commute tool. Except on rainy days in car I arrive at work wa

by LandR 6y ago

> eBike costs an order of magnitude less than a car and is functionally the same range/value as a commute tool. Except on rainy days in car I arrive at work warm and dry. On eBike I arrive wet, cold and miserable.

egeozcan 6y ago
...and eBikes tend to get stolen, way more often than cars are. I jumped on the eBike ship very early but I simply can't leave it anywhere.
- 0wis 6y ago
  Its because you were alone. Paris was well known to be unsafe even for a mechanical bike. With the CoViD measures, many Parisians got equipped with high end electric and non-electric bikes and the number of them exploded. Now that there are other pricy bikes everywhere, the risk that your bike will be targeted by a robber has highly reduced. Moreover, cops and random pedestrian are also more aware. Ultra qualitative data, would be better to find more quantitative to build the case but without more info, it is how I feel it.
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    I felt the same in Toronto (just have a shit bike), but the bike boom this summer led to somebody stealing my out-of-true rear wheel with extremely worn freewheel, and peeling the tape off my cracked seat revealing that, yes, it is cracked, and taking it anyway. When people are out for a $5-$10 return for crack at 4AM, nothing is safe.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  The government will solve that by making you pay to register your e-bike and fining and checking the papers anyone caught riding an unregistered e-bike.
  - treeman79 6y ago
    It’s why Japan has low rates of bicycle theft.
  - parisian22 6y ago
    The registration cost 5 to 10€ which i think it's reasonable https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14062 https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14062
  - egeozcan 6y ago
    Well this sounds cool but I think the stolen bikes would be reduced to space parts very easily, which I agree is a hurdle for the thieves but still I personally wouldn't risk it. On the other hand, if anybody has any info if this will be a thing in Germany, please let me know! It's surely better than nothing.
  - corty 6y ago
    Germany had voluntary bike registration to prevent thefts, I still have an old bike with the sticker. Didn't work because the police just flat-out tells you that they will not investigate bike theft if you report a bike as stolen. You just get a copy of the report for the insurance, but they systematically refuse to do anything.

by LandR 6y ago

egeozcan 6y ago

...and eBikes tend to get stolen, way more often than cars are. I jumped on the eBike ship very early but I simply can't leave it anywhere.

0wis 6y ago
Its because you were alone. Paris was well known to be unsafe even for a mechanical bike. With the CoViD measures, many Parisians got equipped with high end electric and non-electric bikes and the number of them exploded. Now that there are other pricy bikes everywhere, the risk that your bike will be targeted by a robber has highly reduced. Moreover, cops and random pedestrian are also more aware. Ultra qualitative data, would be better to find more quantitative to build the case but without more info, it is how I feel it.
- Scoundreller 6y ago
  I felt the same in Toronto (just have a shit bike), but the bike boom this summer led to somebody stealing my out-of-true rear wheel with extremely worn freewheel, and peeling the tape off my cracked seat revealing that, yes, it is cracked, and taking it anyway. When people are out for a $5-$10 return for crack at 4AM, nothing is safe.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
The government will solve that by making you pay to register your e-bike and fining and checking the papers anyone caught riding an unregistered e-bike.
- treeman79 6y ago
  It’s why Japan has low rates of bicycle theft.
- parisian22 6y ago
  The registration cost 5 to 10€ which i think it's reasonable https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14062 https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A14062
- egeozcan 6y ago
  Well this sounds cool but I think the stolen bikes would be reduced to space parts very easily, which I agree is a hurdle for the thieves but still I personally wouldn't risk it. On the other hand, if anybody has any info if this will be a thing in Germany, please let me know! It's surely better than nothing.
- corty 6y ago
  Germany had voluntary bike registration to prevent thefts, I still have an old bike with the sticker. Didn't work because the police just flat-out tells you that they will not investigate bike theft if you report a bike as stolen. You just get a copy of the report for the insurance, but they systematically refuse to do anything.