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I don’t think that for a person who lives in a world where AI shops routinely sell software that discriminate against minorities, not just in ways that are expl
by webkike 6y ago
I don’t think that for a person who lives in a world where AI shops routinely sell software that discriminate against minorities, not just in ways that are explained by poorly thought out datasets, saying you’re “so tired” is at all wrong. This is the exact research that Timnit is an expert on, and these are systems that have real world consequences for minorities. It’s easy for people who are not minorities to say you should always a be polite but frankly I think she’s being extremely polite here given all of the circumstances.
- calf 6y agoI bet there is research showing how racism and discrimination literally tires out the people subjected to it. And now you have people saying they're not allowed to express that.
- webkike 6y agoIndeed. reminds me of this speech by Jacob Blake’s sister: https://youtu.be/Ijp85on6UHY https://youtu.be/Ijp85on6UHY “I’m not sad. I’m not sorry. I’m angry. And I’m tired”
- dash2 6y agoNobody said it was disallowed. The grandparent said he called it out as a lazy rhetorical move. It's certainly true that oppression can be tiring (does that point need research?) It may equally be true that some people overclaim on the extent of their oppression, and the mental health harms they are suffering from it, and even make a profession of doing so.
- 9HZZRfNlpR 6y agoPeople are just tired of assholes who only blame the world and never take responsibility.
- raxxorrax 6y agoHow are these AI systems affecting people? Is there an example application?