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I suggest that you substantiate your opinion as per the community guidelines, explaining your position and backing it up with data as much as possible — your co

I suggest that you substantiate your opinion as per the community guidelines, explaining your position and backing it up with data as much as possible — your comment seems to be getting rapidly downvoted because your account is new but your only post doesn't necessarily meet the Community Guidelines (which you can find at the bottom of the main page). There is a risk that people interpret your account as trolling.

awssucs 6y ago
The UK is doing all it can to save its citizens while the EU hangs on to bureaucracy and to save face it points fingers at the UK for approving a life saving vaccine during a pandemic. There isnt much more i can substantiate, the evidence is right there in the title. The EU has a long history or cutting funding to countries that go on their own - it even complained about countries closing borders early on in the pandemic and hinted retaliation. What more do I need to say? Also yes, my account is trolling the collective echo chamber. Fee free to shadow ban it.
- matthewmacleod 6y ago
  This is not what's happening, and you have demonstrated both a lack of knowledge about the mechanics of the EU and a deliberate attempt to spread misinformation.
  - awssucs 6y ago
    I believe your blind passion for the eu - a project i support - makes you blind to its flaws. Some of us in the eu are struggling with its incompetence and any criticism is quickly shut down as euro skepticism or misinformation. A dangerous path if we want the project to survive.
    - zapzupnz 6y ago
      From the HN guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Twitter/reddit-style accusations of 'blind passion for [x]' doesn't come across as substantive discussion. If you want to persuade people of your vision for the EU, begin by not casting aspersions on those who disagree with you, the very thing you complain others do to you. I believe that if you have something worth saying, it's beholden upon you to say it the right way, not beholden upon others to tolerate trolling in order to eventually come around to your point of view. It makes for better quality conversation, something the HN community as a whole takes a certain amount of pride in. Instead of martyring yourself by welcoming a shadow ban, state your case, back it up, show data, give examples, post news links from verifiable sources, cite relevant reports. You'll convince more people that way. It's easy to throw accusations but harder to make people take them seriously — this is true of any matter, not just the EU. If your goal is not to convince anybody then feel most free to ignore this olive branch.

awssucs 6y ago

The UK is doing all it can to save its citizens while the EU hangs on to bureaucracy and to save face it points fingers at the UK for approving a life saving vaccine during a pandemic. There isnt much more i can substantiate, the evidence is right there in the title. The EU has a long history or cutting funding to countries that go on their own - it even complained about countries closing borders early on in the pandemic and hinted retaliation. What more do I need to say? Also yes, my account is trolling the collective echo chamber. Fee free to shadow ban it.

matthewmacleod 6y ago
This is not what's happening, and you have demonstrated both a lack of knowledge about the mechanics of the EU and a deliberate attempt to spread misinformation.
- awssucs 6y ago
  I believe your blind passion for the eu - a project i support - makes you blind to its flaws. Some of us in the eu are struggling with its incompetence and any criticism is quickly shut down as euro skepticism or misinformation. A dangerous path if we want the project to survive.
  - zapzupnz 6y ago
    From the HN guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Twitter/reddit-style accusations of 'blind passion for [x]' doesn't come across as substantive discussion. If you want to persuade people of your vision for the EU, begin by not casting aspersions on those who disagree with you, the very thing you complain others do to you. I believe that if you have something worth saying, it's beholden upon you to say it the right way, not beholden upon others to tolerate trolling in order to eventually come around to your point of view. It makes for better quality conversation, something the HN community as a whole takes a certain amount of pride in. Instead of martyring yourself by welcoming a shadow ban, state your case, back it up, show data, give examples, post news links from verifiable sources, cite relevant reports. You'll convince more people that way. It's easy to throw accusations but harder to make people take them seriously — this is true of any matter, not just the EU. If your goal is not to convince anybody then feel most free to ignore this olive branch.