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This is one way the 27 can influence the 25. What do you think the UN is?

Scoundreller 6y ago
I don’t see the 25 changing their stance because they lost a vote. This committee exists to take away people’s rights, not to give them any. I look forward to a UN vote on mandatory mask requirements (will never happen).
- free_rms 6y ago
  The UN isn't a government, it's a meeting forum.
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    Not a government, but they do vote on where to send troops and step in when governments fail and decide who gets sent food, who gets loans.
    - free_rms 6y ago
      In rare cases, when no major or regional power is interested, they do that as the humanitarian backstop, yes. I'm pretty sure East Timor is the only case of their stepping in for a government. Could be wrong? Other examples?
      - bigbubba 6y ago
        From what I have gathered from Wikipedia, East Timor has not been governed by the UN since 2002. However the UN still governs the Cyprus Buffer Zone, part of the Golan Heights, and Kosovo. In the past they have also governed Western New Guinea, Cambodia, and part of what is today eastern Croatia. Their administration of Cambodia in the early 90s seems particularly full fledged: > The United Nations Transitional Authority in Cambodia (UNTAC)[3] was a United Nations peacekeeping operation in Cambodia in 1992–93 formed following the 1991 Paris Peace Accords. It was also the first occasion on which the UN had taken over the administration of an independent state, organised and run an election (as opposed to monitoring or supervising), had its own radio station and jail, and been responsible for promoting and safeguarding human rights at the national level.
        free_rms 6y ago
        'Governs' Golan Heights and Cyprus buffer zone? Come on, man. A few blue helmets to discourage shooting across the ceasefire is a great idea and all but it's not government. I didn't know about Cambodia, that's another case, thanks.
        bigbubba 6y ago
        Well they're all from this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territories_governed_by_the_United_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territories_governed_b...

I don’t see the 25 changing their stance because they lost a vote. This committee exists to take away people’s rights, not to give them any. I look forward to a UN vote on mandatory mask requirements (will never happen).

free_rms 6y ago
The UN isn't a government, it's a meeting forum.
- Scoundreller 6y ago
  Not a government, but they do vote on where to send troops and step in when governments fail and decide who gets sent food, who gets loans.
  - free_rms 6y ago
    In rare cases, when no major or regional power is interested, they do that as the humanitarian backstop, yes. I'm pretty sure East Timor is the only case of their stepping in for a government. Could be wrong? Other examples?
    - bigbubba 6y ago
      From what I have gathered from Wikipedia, East Timor has not been governed by the UN since 2002. However the UN still governs the Cyprus Buffer Zone, part of the Golan Heights, and Kosovo. In the past they have also governed Western New Guinea, Cambodia, and part of what is today eastern Croatia. Their administration of Cambodia in the early 90s seems particularly full fledged: > The United Nations Transitional Authority in Cambodia (UNTAC)[3] was a United Nations peacekeeping operation in Cambodia in 1992–93 formed following the 1991 Paris Peace Accords. It was also the first occasion on which the UN had taken over the administration of an independent state, organised and run an election (as opposed to monitoring or supervising), had its own radio station and jail, and been responsible for promoting and safeguarding human rights at the national level.
      - free_rms 6y ago
        'Governs' Golan Heights and Cyprus buffer zone? Come on, man. A few blue helmets to discourage shooting across the ceasefire is a great idea and all but it's not government. I didn't know about Cambodia, that's another case, thanks.
        bigbubba 6y ago
        Well they're all from this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territories_governed_by_the_United_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territories_governed_b...