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It's so refreshing to have it completely normalized in Canada now. Like gay marriage (legal since 2005), it's just another thing that is perfectly common everyd

by grecy 6y ago

It's so refreshing to have it completely normalized in Canada now. Like gay marriage (legal since 2005), it's just another thing that is perfectly common everyday, and nobody thinks it's a big deal or has to expend energy constantly fighting for the right.

chrisseaton 6y ago
> It's so refreshing to have it completely normalized in Canada now. Is it really completely normalized? Like are senior members of society such as judges, doctors, military officers, teachers, politicians, etc completely comfortable smoking cannabis in public or would that still cause some surprise if they were that casual about it? Because I don't think that is even the case with tobacco - people shamefully hide that even though it's always been legal - let alone cannabis? I think the only drug which is completely normalized is alcohol. They serve alcohol at state dinners and expect most people will want it. I doubt they serve cannabis.
- grecy 6y ago
  It's really a lot more normal than I expected it would be so soon. It's very common to see people standing in public smoking weed, while it's almost always illegal to drink alcohol in public. Friends in Toronto don't even buy a bottle of wine for a Friday night dinner with friends anymore, they buy weed. Just the other day I was with a group of people who went out of their way to hide the beer cans they were walking with as a Police car drove past. They were openly smoking a joint the entire time. > Like are senior members of society such as judges, doctors, military officers, teachers, politicians, etc completely comfortable smoking cannabis in public or would that still cause some surprise if they were that casual about it? I don't think it's common to see people like that drinking alcohol in public, and weed feels kind of the same now. From a legal standpoint, anywhere you can smoke a cigarette, you can smoke weed.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > illegal to drink alcohol in public Huh? Canada has bars, pubs, restaurants, with people drinking in them in public all the time. > I don't think it's common to see people like that drinking alcohol in public, Here's Trudeau publicly drinking alcohol at an official function. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2017/11/08/the-wednesday-news-briefing-an-at-a-glance-survey-of-some-top-stories-68/ https://toronto.citynews.ca/2017/11/08/the-wednesday-news-br... I doubt there's a recent photo of him smoking a joint? Let alone smoking a joint while working and representing the country? What about finishing off a meal with an edible? I imagine your Parliament has an official bar on premises for members? Does it serve cannabis or just alcohol? Nonsense.
    - Scoundreller 6y ago
      > Canada has bars, pubs, restaurants, with people drinking in them in public all the time. Bars, pubs and restaurants are private places. Parks and sidewalks are public.
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        Well that seems like cannabis is less accepted - not more. Cannabis has to be pushed outside, alcohol can be inside institutions.
        grecy 6y ago
        It's like smoking in that second-hand smoke is a consideration. I can walk down the public sidewalk in the middle of town openly hitting a 6 ft bong. I can't drink even one can of beer like that.
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        chrisseaton 6y ago
        If the smoke is the only issue then presumably you can also get an edible with your meal in family restaurants alongside your beer? No? Not normalised then is it?
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  I always posit that the proper analogy for "smoking weed" is not "consuming alcohol" but rather "getting drunk" because relatively few people smoke weed without intending to get high (yes, this is an unpopular view; hit the downvote button and move on). If you can buy that, then then there's no inconsistency between serving alcohol at a state dinner (provided getting slammed is taboo) and not serving cannabis.
  - hansjorg 6y ago
    You've got a point, but of course there's a gradient on the weed end as well. It's just that there's a sharper cutoff on the low end for what constitutes interesting.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  Another question I'd ask along these lines is: Do any Canadians have to pass drug tests which test for cannabis use before they can get certain jobs? I know in the US, even in states like California that have effectively legalized cannabis, many employers still test for cannabis use. This is employment discrimination, so cannabis use won't be normalized until such tests are done away with.
  - grecy 6y ago
    Not that I'm aware of. It is now treated - country wide - like alcohol. Plenty of jobs mean you can't show up to work intoxicated, but it's perfectly fine to have consumed days prior then be fit and healthy for work on Monday morning. Same for weed and alcohol.

by grecy 6y ago

chrisseaton 6y ago

> It's so refreshing to have it completely normalized in Canada now. Is it really completely normalized? Like are senior members of society such as judges, doctors, military officers, teachers, politicians, etc completely comfortable smoking cannabis in public or would that still cause some surprise if they were that casual about it? Because I don't think that is even the case with tobacco - people shamefully hide that even though it's always been legal - let alone cannabis? I think the only drug which is completely normalized is alcohol. They serve alcohol at state dinners and expect most people will want it. I doubt they serve cannabis.

grecy 6y ago
It's really a lot more normal than I expected it would be so soon. It's very common to see people standing in public smoking weed, while it's almost always illegal to drink alcohol in public. Friends in Toronto don't even buy a bottle of wine for a Friday night dinner with friends anymore, they buy weed. Just the other day I was with a group of people who went out of their way to hide the beer cans they were walking with as a Police car drove past. They were openly smoking a joint the entire time. > Like are senior members of society such as judges, doctors, military officers, teachers, politicians, etc completely comfortable smoking cannabis in public or would that still cause some surprise if they were that casual about it? I don't think it's common to see people like that drinking alcohol in public, and weed feels kind of the same now. From a legal standpoint, anywhere you can smoke a cigarette, you can smoke weed.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > illegal to drink alcohol in public Huh? Canada has bars, pubs, restaurants, with people drinking in them in public all the time. > I don't think it's common to see people like that drinking alcohol in public, Here's Trudeau publicly drinking alcohol at an official function. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2017/11/08/the-wednesday-news-briefing-an-at-a-glance-survey-of-some-top-stories-68/ https://toronto.citynews.ca/2017/11/08/the-wednesday-news-br... I doubt there's a recent photo of him smoking a joint? Let alone smoking a joint while working and representing the country? What about finishing off a meal with an edible? I imagine your Parliament has an official bar on premises for members? Does it serve cannabis or just alcohol? Nonsense.
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    > Canada has bars, pubs, restaurants, with people drinking in them in public all the time. Bars, pubs and restaurants are private places. Parks and sidewalks are public.
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      Well that seems like cannabis is less accepted - not more. Cannabis has to be pushed outside, alcohol can be inside institutions.
      - grecy 6y ago
        It's like smoking in that second-hand smoke is a consideration. I can walk down the public sidewalk in the middle of town openly hitting a 6 ft bong. I can't drink even one can of beer like that.
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        chrisseaton 6y ago
        If the smoke is the only issue then presumably you can also get an edible with your meal in family restaurants alongside your beer? No? Not normalised then is it?
throwaway894345 6y ago
I always posit that the proper analogy for "smoking weed" is not "consuming alcohol" but rather "getting drunk" because relatively few people smoke weed without intending to get high (yes, this is an unpopular view; hit the downvote button and move on). If you can buy that, then then there's no inconsistency between serving alcohol at a state dinner (provided getting slammed is taboo) and not serving cannabis.
- hansjorg 6y ago
  You've got a point, but of course there's a gradient on the weed end as well. It's just that there's a sharper cutoff on the low end for what constitutes interesting.
pmoriarty 6y ago
Another question I'd ask along these lines is: Do any Canadians have to pass drug tests which test for cannabis use before they can get certain jobs? I know in the US, even in states like California that have effectively legalized cannabis, many employers still test for cannabis use. This is employment discrimination, so cannabis use won't be normalized until such tests are done away with.
- grecy 6y ago
  Not that I'm aware of. It is now treated - country wide - like alcohol. Plenty of jobs mean you can't show up to work intoxicated, but it's perfectly fine to have consumed days prior then be fit and healthy for work on Monday morning. Same for weed and alcohol.