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To honest, I think this is probably the begining of the end for Facebook. I foresee that they'll be forced to reduce services in Europe repeatedly. It'll be int
by that_guy_iain 6y ago
To honest, I think this is probably the begining of the end for Facebook. I foresee that they'll be forced to reduce services in Europe repeatedly. It'll be interesting to see what takes its place.
- trumpeta 6y agothey'll end up preying on the people in 3rd world countries that don't have strong privacy legislation. Same way as Phillip Morris did with cigarettes...
- oblio 6y agoIt's still good if you minimize their impact. A similar example is sending garbage to China. At a certain point China stopped accepting it. Hopefully soon others will do the same and recycling will be tackled correctly.
- marcosdumay 6y agoGood luck for them in competing with somebody that has the network effect of being available everywhere.
- somedude895 6y agoThe network effects has its limits. Messengers and social media platforms have so far resisted a winner-takes-all situation. Since social networks are still more often than not rooted within geographical boundaries, it's possible for competitors to coexist on a global level.
- grishka 6y agoIt'll be definitely interesting to see what Facebook is going to do if one of those bills that would require it to federate and/or provide an open API gets passed.
- paganel 6y agoI don’t see FB shutting down a service like Watsapp in Europe in the next decade at least, first of all because countless European politicians use it, to say nothing of the hundreds of millions of Europeans who use it regularly. There’s nothing else comparable that can take its place.
- oblio 6y agoTelegram, I think Signal, too. There are alternatives, they're just not as popular now.
- stingraycharles 6y agoTelegram may be getting momentum, but it’s nothing near the usage of WhatsApp over here. Signal nobody knows anything about, there’s nobody on there.
- jeltz 6y agoI think this is very local. Here in Sweden I have only ever met one person who used Whatsapp. I feel most people use Facebook messenger with some use of Skype, Google Hangouts, Telegram, Signal and Slack.
- oblio 6y agoIn at least France, Romania, Luxembourg, Italy, Germany, WhatsApp is very popular. By popular I mean "small businesses start advertising contacting them through WhatsApp"-popular. It would be nice to have a breakdown of these numbers but we'll probably never get them from FB.
- hombre_fatal 6y agoDo telcos in US/Europe create the same incumbency that telcos in Latin America create? Here in Mexico, any mobile data package comes with free data for blessed services like Whatsapp and FB Messenger. Obviously trying to compete with each other on these perks. Using a competitor like Telegram is a complete nonstarter when trading memes or video chat eats into your data. The cheapest plan from Telcel (pay-as-you-go + holding 20 pesos in your balance) lets you use Whatsapp infinitely. GG to competition.
- _fat_santa 6y agoIt might be the bigginning of the end of Facebook dot com, but Facebook as a company I feel will be here for a while. Facebook used to just be Facebook dot com but they've since become almost a tech conglomerate. The big tech firms are basically just holding companies for all the stuff they've acquired over the years.
- that_guy_iain 6y agoYea, once you're that size even if you're struggling you're around for decades.