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> There is still no central repository for useful applications. Managing and keeping all software updated takes a lot of manual work. And this is why I tend to
by ashtonkem 6y ago
> There is still no central repository for useful applications. Managing and keeping all software updated takes a lot of manual work.
And this is why I tend to ignore most commentary on Operating Systems. You know the moment that Windows releases a centralized repository, there will be a thousand cries of "walled garden!" and "embrace, extend, and extinguish". It's literally impossible to satisfy everyone, given how many mutually exclusive needs exist out there.
- smichel17 6y agoNot if it were a repository a la Linux, distributions, where: - You can still install applications manually, and there are no special permissions lost for doing so. - You can access it using your choice of application, instead of only the MS-approved tool - You can add 3rd party repositories If that's what the "Windows store" was, I'd absolutely use it (if I still used Windows). If it comes along with a bunch of other crap, then yeah, there will be pitchforks.
- R0b0t1 6y agoThere is a Windows store. It kind of failed, mostly because using it requires using gimped APIs. If they got rid of that more people would use it. What does seem to work is the certificate and code reputation. It does actually prevent users from running things but is easy enough to click through if you really know better.
- smichel17 6y ago> mostly because using it requires using gimped APIs Yes, that's the "other crap" I was referring to [edit: specifically "special permissions lost for doing so". I was a little vague because I knew there were some additional restrictions for using the Windows store but wasn't sure what they were.]
- pjmlp 6y agoYou can deploy Win32 application on the store as well, and Project Reunion is about merging both worlds.
- reader_mode 6y agohttps://chocolatey.org/ https://chocolatey.org/ ?
- smichel17 6y agoDidn't know this existed. I'll definitely consider it if I ever go back to using Windows. I didn't spend enough time to verify if it satisfies the "can use other clients" and "can add 3rd party repositories" criteria. But assuming it does, I bet tons of people would happily use it, if Microsoft blessed it as the official standard for managing Windows applications / installed it by default.
- reader_mode 6y agoI didn't use windows for a few years but last time I tried everything I needed was in the main repo - it feels similar to brew but less popular among windows users.
- vips7L 6y agoThe official package manager of windows is winget. https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli I like scoop though personally. https://scoop.sh https://scoop.sh
- stinos 6y agoIn combination with the ChocolateyGet provider for Powershell this works pretty well actually. It's not apt-get or similar, but it does get rid of the point-click installation for quite a lot of common software.
- daptaq 6y agoI think that that is because Microsoft would probably only create a Walled Garden. What's the chance they will allow a system where anyone can host their own repository, and add/remove them as a user? EEE doesn't seem applicable here, because there's nothing to embrace and extend. It's problem that has to be solved for scratch.
- metalliqaz 6y agoThey already did, it's called the windows store (and the UWP platform)
- vetinari 6y ago"Centralized" does not imply "only". Debian or CentOS do have centralized repos, but that does not prevent others having repos too (i.e. proxmox for Debian or EPEL for CentOS).
- eikenberry 6y agoNot true. There is one central repository for Windows that manages all the useful applications that I use on Windows. That central repository is called Steam and no one really complains about it.
- shakow 6y ago> "walled garden!" This is only true when the centralized store is the only way of installing software. That's why iOS is called a walled garden, but not Android.