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I agree with you on the melting pot comment, but (pre covid) jet age travel makes the whole 'isolation' point somewhat moot in my mind. you can be on a direct f

by nopzor 6y ago

I agree with you on the melting pot comment, but (pre covid) jet age travel makes the whole 'isolation' point somewhat moot in my mind. you can be on a direct flight from Aukland to eg. San Fran that takes ~12 hours. is that really that much different than the ~9 hours it takes to go from eg. London to San Fran? Maybe I just like travel (and airplanes) ;-)

telesilla 6y ago
When you have a 2-week mandatory quarantine in Australia and NZ it makes the concept of easy travel a bit stretched. It's really shown how isolated they are.
- yardstick 6y ago
  When considering moving countries, things like a 14 day quarantine that will be gone within 12-18 months aren’t something I would personally factor in. UK also has the same quarantine period- except no one takes it seriously and it isn’t enforced.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    No, the UK quarantine is not the same as quarantine in Aus, NZ, Singapore, etc. Nobody's moving to NZ now, but covid will be over in a few months and it will be back to normal.
bshimmin 6y ago
My brother moved from the UK to New Zealand a few years ago, and I've managed to visit him all of once - it's much more than a day of travel from here, with the added disadvantage that neither he nor I live near any of the convenient airports. Travelling to, say, New York from the UK is a lot more doable: I can get from semi-rural countryside in the UK to Manhattan in maybe 12 hours. There's also a considerable difference in cost. (To the poster upthread asking how it compares to the UK: I only spent ten days in New Zealand, but I thought it was great. Sort of like the Lake District here, but on a vast scale. I also recommend the beef and cheese pies - a lovely healthy snack.)
- iso1631 6y ago
  NYC is the kind of place you can go for a weekend from the UK - especially if you knock-off at Friday lunch. With timezones as well, NZ takes 36 hours. But both of those are intercontinental trips 2 hours from London will put you in a dozen different countries 4 hours will get you anywhere in Europe, as well as Cairo, Morocco, Turkey, Jerusalem 8 hours will get you to East Coast US, middle east, India, and even the north parts of sub-saharan africa (Kenya, Nigeria, The Gambia) 12 hours will get you to the Carribean, the West Coast US, and much of the Far East 2 hours from Aukland will get you to other parts of NZ 4 hours will get you to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, and the Great Barrier reef 8 hours will give you a choice of a few pacific islands 12 hours will get you to Singapore, maybe Hong Kong There's a lot more choice to see the world out of Europe.

by nopzor 6y ago

telesilla 6y ago

When you have a 2-week mandatory quarantine in Australia and NZ it makes the concept of easy travel a bit stretched. It's really shown how isolated they are.

yardstick 6y ago
When considering moving countries, things like a 14 day quarantine that will be gone within 12-18 months aren’t something I would personally factor in. UK also has the same quarantine period- except no one takes it seriously and it isn’t enforced.
- iso1631 6y ago
  No, the UK quarantine is not the same as quarantine in Aus, NZ, Singapore, etc. Nobody's moving to NZ now, but covid will be over in a few months and it will be back to normal.

bshimmin 6y ago

My brother moved from the UK to New Zealand a few years ago, and I've managed to visit him all of once - it's much more than a day of travel from here, with the added disadvantage that neither he nor I live near any of the convenient airports. Travelling to, say, New York from the UK is a lot more doable: I can get from semi-rural countryside in the UK to Manhattan in maybe 12 hours. There's also a considerable difference in cost. (To the poster upthread asking how it compares to the UK: I only spent ten days in New Zealand, but I thought it was great. Sort of like the Lake District here, but on a vast scale. I also recommend the beef and cheese pies - a lovely healthy snack.)

iso1631 6y ago
NYC is the kind of place you can go for a weekend from the UK - especially if you knock-off at Friday lunch. With timezones as well, NZ takes 36 hours. But both of those are intercontinental trips 2 hours from London will put you in a dozen different countries 4 hours will get you anywhere in Europe, as well as Cairo, Morocco, Turkey, Jerusalem 8 hours will get you to East Coast US, middle east, India, and even the north parts of sub-saharan africa (Kenya, Nigeria, The Gambia) 12 hours will get you to the Carribean, the West Coast US, and much of the Far East 2 hours from Aukland will get you to other parts of NZ 4 hours will get you to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, and the Great Barrier reef 8 hours will give you a choice of a few pacific islands 12 hours will get you to Singapore, maybe Hong Kong There's a lot more choice to see the world out of Europe.