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> Somehow lockdown doesn't have long-term consequences? Lockdowns are almost always implemented to stop hospital from overflowing. Both short and long term soc
by SomeoneFromCA 6y ago
> Somehow lockdown doesn't have long-term consequences?
Lockdowns are almost always implemented to stop hospital from overflowing. Both short and long term social and medical effects of overflown hospitals are much higher than mild effects of lockdowns. Of course, it is better to minimize them (say like Taiwan does), but deliberate avoidance of lockdowns will always turn out more expensive than applying them in right moments.
>What matter is the content of the paper not the number of paper.
No, unfortunately, if you cannot independently verify the claims in the paper, quantity becomes important (obviously, the papers have to com from reputable sources).
> The question is which has less risk?
I have no idea what this means.
> I can only speak for myself
I am not are about that, honestly (that you'd buy argument of this quality, coming from someone else).
- matz1 6y agoExcept in most places the hospital are not overflowing, even in the event of hospital overflowing, the measure should be to increase capacity, re-distribute to other hospital, don't admit people who only have mild symptoms. In fact, I would argue that lockdown can cause overflow because of all the delayed procedures and layoffs due to lack of doing those procedures >No, unfortunately, if you cannot independently verify the claims in the paper, quantity becomes important (obviously, the papers have to com from reputable sources). More doesn't mean it correct, you have to argue the content of the paper. Quantity doesn't mean quality. >I have no idea what this means. Covid has risk Banning indoor wedding has risk Which has less risk? Its matter of choosing the less risky. >I am not are about that, honestly (that you'd buy argument of this quality, coming from someone else What do you mean? The original poster argue that mask is harmless. I gave argument how mask can be harmful. I can only speak for myself that at least for me the mask can be harmful. I even acknowledge that for other people it may not.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago> even in the event of hospital overflowing, the measure should be to increase capacity, re-distribute to other hospital, don't admit people who only have mild symptoms. The trouble with this argument is that the limiting factor is ICU nurses, and they can't be spun up on demand.
- matz1 6y agoYes they can, its logistics issue.
- disgruntledphd2 6y agoPlease enlighten me as to how you create new ICU nurses without a four year (at best) lead time. Honestly, if this was possible, it would make a lot of things much easier.
- SomeoneFromCA 6y agoSpontaneous quantum ripple. Emergence from vacuum.
- matz1 6y agoThere are plenty of ICU nurses looking for employment all over the country. And ironically due to lockdown, lots of nurses being laid off/furloughed. And there is field hospitals for covid being dismantled because there is lack of use.
- disgruntledphd2 6y agoCan you provide some stats for this, as everything I've read lately suggests the opposite?
- matz1 6y agohttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/workforce/record-number-of-healthcare-workers-laid-off-furloughed-during-pandemic.html&ved=2ahUKEwiD6bz4u6_tAhVBp1kKHSxZDakQFjAAegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw1jTMyqnoRPPjbX3WlM3Xl-&cshid=1606917998177 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients&ved=2ahUKEwjv1r2RvK_tAhVNu1kKHSV_CQgQFjABegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0ocgJ4UH3nSIlx3dJgsl2- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...