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>If everyone wore masks then we wouldn't be where we are. How do you know that?

hanniabu 6y ago
For a fact? I don't unless it actually happens (schrodinger's cat), but there's a high probability this would be the case rather than not. Will people still get infected? Yes, I'm sure they will since typical face masks are not P100. But when you're preventing ~80% transfer on an exhale and ~60% on inhale, if both participants had masks on then that filters a lot. Granted this assumes other precautions would be followed as well since obviously places like bars and restaurants where you have no mask on will continue to be an issue.
grecy 6y ago
It's easy to look at the case (and death) numbers from countries like Japan, Taiwan and South Korea where mask use is very high. For all intents and purposes, they don't have COVID.
- Gwypaas 6y ago
  On the other end of the spectrum you have France and Spain with new lockdowns and high mask compliance. Public health coupled with the communication of it is a damnadly hard subject.
- timr 6y ago
  "For all intents and purposes, they don't have COVID." Japan is seeing all-time record case counts: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/tags/82/ https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/tags/82/ South Korea is seeing infections growing "at their fastest pace since the early days of the pandemic": https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southkorea/south-korea-mulls-stricter-social-distancing-as-covid-19-spike-continues-idUKKBN289023 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southk... Taiwan is actually seeing case growth, as well (albeit from a small base): https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/ And not that you brought it up, but Hong Kong just saw an infection spike that has them instituting a bunch of new restrictions: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3111894/hong-kong-tighten-social-distancing-rules-health https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic...
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    It’s just picking and choosing the examples to fit the argument. If your points become more well known there will be new promised lands where things are going well because people over there are doing x.

For a fact? I don't unless it actually happens (schrodinger's cat), but there's a high probability this would be the case rather than not. Will people still get infected? Yes, I'm sure they will since typical face masks are not P100. But when you're preventing ~80% transfer on an exhale and ~60% on inhale, if both participants had masks on then that filters a lot. Granted this assumes other precautions would be followed as well since obviously places like bars and restaurants where you have no mask on will continue to be an issue.

grecy 6y ago

It's easy to look at the case (and death) numbers from countries like Japan, Taiwan and South Korea where mask use is very high. For all intents and purposes, they don't have COVID.

Gwypaas 6y ago
On the other end of the spectrum you have France and Spain with new lockdowns and high mask compliance. Public health coupled with the communication of it is a damnadly hard subject.
timr 6y ago
"For all intents and purposes, they don't have COVID." Japan is seeing all-time record case counts: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/tags/82/ https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/tags/82/ South Korea is seeing infections growing "at their fastest pace since the early days of the pandemic": https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southkorea/south-korea-mulls-stricter-social-distancing-as-covid-19-spike-continues-idUKKBN289023 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southk... Taiwan is actually seeing case growth, as well (albeit from a small base): https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/ And not that you brought it up, but Hong Kong just saw an infection spike that has them instituting a bunch of new restrictions: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3111894/hong-kong-tighten-social-distancing-rules-health https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic...
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  It’s just picking and choosing the examples to fit the argument. If your points become more well known there will be new promised lands where things are going well because people over there are doing x.