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For those are curious about usability: I use LineageOS+MicroG¹ as the daily driver of one of my spare test devices (Oneplus One bacon) and it is the best ROM f

For those are curious about usability: I use LineageOS+MicroG¹ as the daily driver of one of my spare test devices (Oneplus One bacon) and it is the best ROM for that phone IMO. I use FDroid, AdAway, NewPipe, Youtube Vanced and Aurora app store. The performance is really good and together with UnifiedNLP backends it's a perfect Android phone. [^1]: https://lineage.microg.org/ https://lineage.microg.org/

scns 6y ago
If you need Telegram or Signal, it may work now. WhatsApp works but push is iffy. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25253507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25253507
- hiq 6y ago
  I've been using Signal and WhatsApp for while on a lineageos + microg, it works perfectly fine without going through microg, i.e. I don't use push messages though (using the constant background notification from Signal and letting WhatsApp do whatever it does to work around the lack of push messages). I guess it uses a bit more battery, but I haven't noticed it in my case (n == 1...).
  - Vinnl 6y ago
    Yeah, I have a phone with neither Play Services nor MicroG, and Signal works just fine using its own notification delivery system (which it emphasises you should use at your own risk of it not working and slurping battery).
- cookiengineer 6y ago
  The Telegram FOSS fork also is g-services and telemetry/firebase free (you can verify this with AppWarden). [1] [1] https://github.com/Telegram-FOSS-Team/Telegram-FOSS https://github.com/Telegram-FOSS-Team/Telegram-FOSS
puzzlingcaptcha 6y ago
The status page does not look particularly reassuring https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status
- throwaway9d0291 6y ago
  The vast majority of the things there are things that few people interested in MicroG would want. The important things (accounts, notifications, maps, SafetyNet) are there and mostly working.
solarkraft 6y ago
I used Lineage OS for MicroG and it's by far the best experience I've had so far. Now I'm using a custom ROM supporting signature spoofing (because my new phone doesn't get official Lineage builds) and there are some issues and it was a lot more work (especially learning about signature spoofing itself is just too hard). Lineage OS for MicroG: Absolutely recommended. MicroG even supports the bluetooth contact tracing protocol used by the Corona-Warn-App, by the way.
- wegs 6y ago
  As someone with more money than time, if I buy an e smartphone, will it Just Work and be usable? https://esolutions.shop/ https://esolutions.shop/ Or am I setting myself up for a world of hurt? They're not expensive either! I figured I'd be paying an arm and a leg.
  - FlyingSnake 6y ago
    Fairphones definitely has first class support for LineageOS due to it's open nature. You can always check the support page of these ROMs. [^1]: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP3 https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP3 [^2]: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
    - Vinnl 6y ago
      Note that Fairphone officially cooperates with /e/: https://www.fairphone.com/en/2020/04/30/keeping-your-data-safe-with-e-os/ https://www.fairphone.com/en/2020/04/30/keeping-your-data-sa...
Guest42 6y ago
Is that a specific oneplus one phone? Is there a recommended one for lineage/microg? I’ve used lineage in the past but didn’t take the time to trick things out.
- opan 6y ago
  OnePlus is the brand, One is the model, bacon is the codename for the OnePlus One. The OnePlus 5 is codenamed cheeseburger. I'm using LineageOS on a OnePlus 5 and it's working great. I'm not using microg or gapps at all, but I'd imagine microg's variant of LineageOS should have pretty similar device support, so just check the devices page on the LineageOS site.
  - Guest42 6y ago
    Excellent thank you!
    - f1refly 6y ago
      Can confirm that lineageos for microg works great on the Onplus 5 series - posted from my oneplus 5 with microg :)
      - Guest42 6y ago
        Even better! I have an open source heart rate monitor that’s been fun to write programs for.
- FlyingSnake 6y ago
  Oneplus devices are perfect for trying out new ROMs. e.g. my OpO runs LineageOS, UBPorts, Sailfish, Purism etc without any issues. However there are other devices as well like the Fairphone etc which are equally good.
Throwaway1771 6y ago
Can highly recommend these options. Very usable. (Unless you desire security, of course - Lineage breaks AOSP's security model, knowingly)

scns 6y ago

If you need Telegram or Signal, it may work now. WhatsApp works but push is iffy. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25253507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25253507

hiq 6y ago
I've been using Signal and WhatsApp for while on a lineageos + microg, it works perfectly fine without going through microg, i.e. I don't use push messages though (using the constant background notification from Signal and letting WhatsApp do whatever it does to work around the lack of push messages). I guess it uses a bit more battery, but I haven't noticed it in my case (n == 1...).
- Vinnl 6y ago
  Yeah, I have a phone with neither Play Services nor MicroG, and Signal works just fine using its own notification delivery system (which it emphasises you should use at your own risk of it not working and slurping battery).
cookiengineer 6y ago
The Telegram FOSS fork also is g-services and telemetry/firebase free (you can verify this with AppWarden). [1] [1] https://github.com/Telegram-FOSS-Team/Telegram-FOSS https://github.com/Telegram-FOSS-Team/Telegram-FOSS

puzzlingcaptcha 6y ago

The status page does not look particularly reassuring https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status

throwaway9d0291 6y ago
The vast majority of the things there are things that few people interested in MicroG would want. The important things (accounts, notifications, maps, SafetyNet) are there and mostly working.

solarkraft 6y ago

I used Lineage OS for MicroG and it's by far the best experience I've had so far. Now I'm using a custom ROM supporting signature spoofing (because my new phone doesn't get official Lineage builds) and there are some issues and it was a lot more work (especially learning about signature spoofing itself is just too hard). Lineage OS for MicroG: Absolutely recommended. MicroG even supports the bluetooth contact tracing protocol used by the Corona-Warn-App, by the way.

wegs 6y ago
As someone with more money than time, if I buy an e smartphone, will it Just Work and be usable? https://esolutions.shop/ https://esolutions.shop/ Or am I setting myself up for a world of hurt? They're not expensive either! I figured I'd be paying an arm and a leg.
- FlyingSnake 6y ago
  Fairphones definitely has first class support for LineageOS due to it's open nature. You can always check the support page of these ROMs. [^1]: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP3 https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/FP3 [^2]: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
  - Vinnl 6y ago
    Note that Fairphone officially cooperates with /e/: https://www.fairphone.com/en/2020/04/30/keeping-your-data-safe-with-e-os/ https://www.fairphone.com/en/2020/04/30/keeping-your-data-sa...

Guest42 6y ago

Is that a specific oneplus one phone? Is there a recommended one for lineage/microg? I’ve used lineage in the past but didn’t take the time to trick things out.

opan 6y ago
OnePlus is the brand, One is the model, bacon is the codename for the OnePlus One. The OnePlus 5 is codenamed cheeseburger. I'm using LineageOS on a OnePlus 5 and it's working great. I'm not using microg or gapps at all, but I'd imagine microg's variant of LineageOS should have pretty similar device support, so just check the devices page on the LineageOS site.
- Guest42 6y ago
  Excellent thank you!
  - f1refly 6y ago
    Can confirm that lineageos for microg works great on the Onplus 5 series - posted from my oneplus 5 with microg :)
    - Guest42 6y ago
      Even better! I have an open source heart rate monitor that’s been fun to write programs for.
FlyingSnake 6y ago
Oneplus devices are perfect for trying out new ROMs. e.g. my OpO runs LineageOS, UBPorts, Sailfish, Purism etc without any issues. However there are other devices as well like the Fairphone etc which are equally good.

Throwaway1771 6y ago

Can highly recommend these options. Very usable. (Unless you desire security, of course - Lineage breaks AOSP's security model, knowingly)