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Violent, lively and brash, taverns were everywhere in early colonial America
- djohnston 6y agoi would enjoy a VR game where i could sit in an old tavern while i drink an actual beer
- swiley 6y agoI mean that sounds pretty easy to set up on your own. Just some VRML or VRchat plus one of the "pub" discord servers (with VRchat you wouldn't need the discord part.)
- AgentME 6y agoI can confirm that drinking together in VR pub worlds is a very popular activity in VRChat.
- lancesells 6y agoI believe this was referenced as a VR game demo in the show Silicon Valley.
- ngcc_hk 6y agoWhich one?
- reducesuffering 6y agohttps://youtu.be/S8MAV9jhf04 https://youtu.be/S8MAV9jhf04
- ativzzz 6y agoThis is basically Westworld
- vsareto 6y agoEven better, just make a beer hat add on for your VR headset
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- rv-de 6y agoif I can have a scotch, I'm in!
- Balgair 6y agoCal Newport recently talked about this feeling on his blog [0]. These 'ambient' experiences have the power to be very deep with VR/AR. [0] https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2020/11/23/on-technology-and-focus-asmr-vr-and-the-first-steps-toward-immersive-single-tasking/ https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2020/11/23/on-technology-and...
- Footkerchief 6y ago> By 1775, however, sporadic rioting and violence in and around taverns transitioned into outright war when a group of ‘minute men’ gathered at the Buckman Tavern in Lexington, Massachusetts on 19 April 1775, just before murdering more than 70 British troops. Murder of the British is a strange take on the events of Lexington and Concord. The author appears to be scraping. Is the assertion that the taverns caused public life to take a different course than it would have otherwise, or just that they were the place where public life occurred?
- floren 6y agoHe has some, ah, unique takes scattered throughout: > American forces – well, the French and Spanish forces, along with the sputtering Americans – managed to win the American Revolution in 1783. Make no mistake, the French forces were key, but to lay the victory at the feet of the Spanish ahead of the Americans throws the whole piece into question.
- vmception 6y agowait till you learn how the same stories are told in different countries. its different everywhere.
- FooBarBizBazz 6y ago...like when you see German museums talking over and over about the "period of migration". First time I saw that it took me a while to understand what they were saying... "Oh, that's what the Anglosphere calls //the barbarian invasions//". (...or, I think every country has a statue of its native son who invented the television. Some are people I'd never heard of.)
- vMPQonVtAjLWmr 6y agoThe naming has nothing to do with Germany but is a common term describing migratory movements that where in part invasions into the Roman Empire, no all of those migrations into Roman territory where violent though. That invasion connotation seems to have carried over into present time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_Period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_Period
- wahern 6y agoOne of my great-grandfather's stories was that soon after immigrating from Poland he and his father found work mining coal in Indian Country (soon to become Oklahoma). The family lived in a shack abutting the local tavern. Everybody (including at least 3 children) slept on the floor due to the frequent bullets coming from the tavern.
- floren 6y agoI've been reading The Big Bonanza by Dan De Quille, and he relates how early miners at the Comstock Lode would surround their beds with stacks of sandbags to protect themselves from stray bullets.
- est31 6y agoTBH in many places in the US you still have regular shootings, and bullets also do get into homes. Residential homes are also built way more crappily now than the log cabins of old times. So nothing much changed about the shooting part. Compare it to Europe which has deweaponized itself.
- barnesto 6y agoCompare it to what? People are going to people. Just because your continent doesn't have the same gun laws as the US doesn't mean there's any less crime - gun related or otherwise. There are quite a few Europeans that wish they had guns so they weren't stabbed, dashed with acid, or beheaded.
- JacobSuperslav 6y agoacids and beheadings? these happened a few times in the last decade on the entire continent
- Cthulhu_ 6y agoStabbing is fairly frequent though, given that you can use basic tools or kitchen utensils for it. The main point still stands though; guns don't cause violence and death, people do. It's the attitude and circumstances, not the tools.
- vehemenz 6y agoI read this article while drinking a Samuel Adams American IPA. Sweet, sweet, hoppy irony.
- howlgarnish 6y agoIncidentally, if you think all this moralistic hand-wringing was centuries ago, famed SF nightclub DNA Lounge was in 2009 charged with, and I quote, "running a disorderly house injurious to the public welfare and morals". https://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/log/2009/02/13.html https://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/log/2009/02/13.html (Note: jwz doesn't like HN referrers, so c&p into a separate tab)
- redis_mlc 6y ago> famed SF nightclub DNA Lounge For those not familiar with the DNA Lounge story: - jwz was an early programmer at Netscape who made several million - he wanted to get into entertainment, but when you buy a bar in SF, it comes without any permits, so you essentially have to rebuild and re-permit everything - the SF Police doesn't want to bother policing bars, so the Chief fights you tooth and nail at every city council meeting. Because lazy. - meanwhile, the property is in an industrial area, so the early closing times and noise ordinances are specious. You can read his web site for the full story, but after reading it you will never want to open a business in SF.
- the_only_law 6y agoMy first thought was NIMBYs as I used to live somewhere where people started buying properties near the college bar scene and then trying to find ways to get them shut down, but this makes sense as well.
- triceratops 6y ago> but when you buy a bar in SF, it comes without any permits, so you essentially have to rebuild and re-permit everything I remain forever amazed that SF manages to retain the aura of coolness, while being anything but.
- daveslash 6y agoNot too far from where I grew up in Downeast Maine is a Tavern in that was built in 1770. It's where some locals planned to capture a British Lt., which ultimately led to the first naval engagement of the Revolutionary war. [1] It's website is.... nostalgic....[2] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnham_Tavern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnham_Tavern [2] https://burnhamtavern.com/ https://burnhamtavern.com/