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Why I’m Losing Hope in India

60 points by tim_sw 6y ago

no1name 6y ago
The writer is a known rabble-rouser. The funny part is that no one apart from the Bloomberg editorial team takes him seriously.
rishav_sharan 6y ago
I don't have much hope left in India. We deserve the people we vote for. India has chosen fundamentalism and fascism. The worst thing is that despite all data and stats around their failures, the current regime enjoys immense popularity. The opposition is irrelevant, the media and news portals are completely subservient to the regime. And even the SC, once the champions of our democracy are pretty much a laughing stock for whom issuing contempt cases over twitter posts to comedians is too much important. India finally has single issue voters. And this issue isn't poverty, corruption, progress or anything like that. It's just Hindutva. This religious fundamentalism is what will finally end the great Indian experiment.
- lazy_nerd 6y ago
  If people in US can be misled by fake news, India stood little chance. Facebook and WhatsApp have been used effectively to brainwash the general public in India. As Barack Obama described in his new book 'Promised Land', the chances of democracy surviving in a multi-ethnic, multi-religious poor country like India was precarious at best. BJP and RSS has effectively made sure that democracy dies in India
  - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
    This is a problem in all cultures where proscriptivist philosophies have enough currency that people will actively oppose general purpose freedom. Democracy requires a willingness to tolerate differences of opinion and behavior.
  - quantummkv 6y ago
    > BJP and RSS has effectively made sure that democracy dies in India That's a weird statement to make, considering that the current PM is a self-made man without any old money, family name or ivy league connections. Infact, most of the high ranking people in his cabinet are self-made men like him. The current Home Minister of India for example started his career as a polling-booth level canvasser in the party. If a poor self-made man rising to the top in free and fair elections (results accepted by everyone) is a murder of democracy, then you need to find the correct definition of democracy.
    - kranner 6y ago
      There are many examples of fascists who were self-made men. It doesn’t have anything to do with democracy at all.
    - rainingcatndogs 6y ago
      > Infact, most of the high ranking people in his cabinet are self-made men like him. We hear a lot about how the current government is less corrupt and less dynastic. But their actions say otherwise[1][2][3]. [1] https://m.thewire.in/article/politics/bjp-congress-political-dynasties-lok-sabha https://m.thewire.in/article/politics/bjp-congress-political... [2] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/electoral-bonds-controversy-all-you-need-know-10-points-112763 https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/electoral-bonds-contro... [3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_of_Kafeel_Khan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_of_Kafeel_Khan
- haltingproblem 6y ago
  I will start with a quibble to make a point. India has a republican form of govt just like the US not a Democracy. Republican forms of governance have existed in India for over 2000+ years [1]. They will survive whatever foreboding you have real or imagined that will befall the "great indian experiment" which is not an experiment except for those whose history starts in 1947. Hinduism has been present in India for over 3000 years. Hindu kingdoms welcomed Jews (~900BC), Christians (52 AD), Zoorastrians (600AD), Muslims (550 AD), Armenians (1500AD) who have lived and prospered without molestation for millenia because of the pluralistic nature of Hinduism. Zoorastrians who were wiped out in Persia (Iran) by their own kith and kin who converted have prospered in India to the point that this tiny minority (less than 100k) leads several of the top-20 conglomerates (e.g. Tata). Hinduism is not just tolerant but pluralistic because it acknowledges multiple paths to god unlike any other religion. Pluralism >>> Tolerance. Multi-religious, multi-ethnic India will survive because of Hinduism not in-spite of it. Case in point, the neighboring states of Pakistan and Bangladesh are both Islamic and the non-muslim population has dwindled precipitously from 20% in 1947 to less than 10% and they are well on their way to becoming 99% Muslim the next couple decades. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%E1%B9%87a_sangha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%E1%B9%87a_sangha
  - fakedang 6y ago
    Indonesia is a highly diverse Muslim majority country, with a political system inspired by Indian secularist values, and it has seen much less conflict than India has in recent years. All of your assertions fall flat. To give an example from the Muslim side, Jewish refugees escaping from Spanish repression in the 1550s-1600s escaped to the Ottoman Empire, where they were welcomed and shepherded into the bureaucracy. Hinduism and it's openness may have been responsible for letting people live in harmony for close to 3 millennia, but what we see is not the Hinduism of those times, but a rabid bastardization of it, akin to Islamic radicalization we see in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    - th3iedkid 6y ago
      Hmm Indonesia may not be the best of examples ? https://www.theweek.co.uk/103382/is-indonesia-becoming-a-sharia-state https://www.theweek.co.uk/103382/is-indonesia-becoming-a-sha...
gabruoy 6y ago
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Indian politics, I feel like I have become less knowledgeable about the state of India after attempting to read and then skim this article. The bias appearing to be with the author is insane enough to make me want to question everything that he is saying. While I understand that its an opinion piece and that he could very well be 100% correct about everthing he is saying, the fact that I am getting no context as to who these people are other than "this leader good, this leader bad" makes this article appear to me that this is just some partisan hack complaining about politics he doesn't like, just from his own county's perspective. This just seems like the same boilerplate article from Democrats in 2016 saying "Now that Trump is elected, America is doomed" and recently from Republicans saying "Now that Biden is elected, America is doomed", painting their party leaders as great heroes and the opposition as evil villains. Maybe I should have the required knowledge of Indian culture and politics before reading this, but maybe since Bloomberg News is a global paper, not an Indian one, it should spend more time educating people about the facts of who certain politians actually are before resorting to calling them cult leaders.
- ramraj07 6y ago
  This article assumes a ton of prior context for sure, and it does make conclusions, I'll say it's very nuanced and actually gives an acceptable and agreeable summary of why India is the way it is due to everything happening in the past half century. If that's the goal of the article then there's definitely going to be much that has to be glossed over. It's also actually very well balanced (as much as any opinion piece can try to be) in its criticisms on both sides of the political spectrum. Anyone who's spent some time knowing about Indira Gandhi and Manmohan Singh can walk away from this article with more context on what role they might have played in Indian history. The same can be said about many articles in Bloomberg about American politics, but I suppose everyone's assumed to be fully versed in the EC system in the states since US is the place to be or whatever. Perhaps the best course of action is for Bloomberg to produce articles like that about everywhere and let the interested parties look up bg info elsewhwee. Otherwise every article about India has to then do Emergency in 70s 101 which sounds pathetic.
- foogazi 6y ago
  > As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Indian politics... >The bias appearing to be with the author is insane enough to make me want to question everything that he is saying. How do you reconcile those two statements ? If you know nothing about X how can you have the context to detect bias ?
spikengineer 6y ago
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- nradov 6y ago
  Do you have numbers on inflation adjusted capital inflows? And why is India less attractive to capital?
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ramraj07 6y ago
This article hit too close to home for me, as an Indian struggling to decide which country to settle down in. Only difference is, I'm also losing hope in the US and pretty much every other country. One thing is clear - the future is not like the past few decades, it's no more an option for conscienable individuals to stay on the sideline and watch the world burn down while flying around drinking mimosas; either we are part of the problem or part of the solution, the question in front of me and many like me is where my societal contribution and self preservation instincts can coexist and be of the most use to everyone.
- skanga 6y ago
  I feel your pain. But, hope springs eternal. It's always darkest before the dawn.
- haltingproblem 6y ago
  The saying goes if you see a problem in everything perhaps the problem lies in your framing? If every country makes you lose hope when we live in the safest, wealthiest and longest life expectancy era in human history inspite of a global pandemic, then perhaps you need to examine your assumptions and framing? The fact that you can choose a country to settle in implies you either have means or talent or both. I would speculate that you have the potential to make manifold contributions. Please reconsider your conclusions in a more optimistic light.
  - reustle 6y ago
    While I agree with you entirely, I'm very curious about this part "we live in the safest, wealthiest and longest life expectancy era in human history inspite of a global pandemic" Data may show this, but what about "happiest"? I wouldn't be surprised if we've seen a global decline in overall happiness, even if everyone is a bit richer.
    - haltingproblem 6y ago
      Almost every era thinks they have achieved so much - prosperity, progress, knowledge, scientific temper but lost something ineffable - their happiness. Perhaps in our genes to forever feel cast out of the garden of eden and strive to get back there. Happiness is an internal state without an objective measure. Worse we don't know what makes us happy. Too little wealth ==> unhappy. Too much wealth ==> unhappy (maybe) but don't see many giving it up. I think I would be miserable without the internet, social media but I am happiest chopping vegetables and washing dishes. Maybe we all just need to go and wash some dishes.
thunkshift1 6y ago
This is a sophisticated rant
- suyash 6y ago
  pretty negative article, seems politically motivated against the current govt to me.
arunc 6y ago
> This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners. Why do they publish this then?
- Barrin92 6y ago
  to bring diversity of opinion to the newspaper, that's where "op-eds" got their name from, literally opposite the editorial board.
  - disown 6y ago
    > to bring diversity of opinion to the newspaper But the author of the article is a bloomberg employee. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ASj7dG4ftKY/andy-mukherjee https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ASj7dG4ftKY/andy-m... > that's where "op-eds" got their name from, literally opposite the editorial board. No. It got it's name from being "opposite of the editorial page". Not the editorial board. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed
haltingproblem 6y ago
Andy is a long time observer of India but this is a blinkered take. FDI (foreign direct investment) in India has doubled to $28B+ from $14B last year for the same 6-month period, in the midst of a pandemic. May I humbly suggest that foreign investors pumping cash into India by choice have more skin the game than economic journalists writing op-eds in newspapers no matter how erudite they are. A good chunk of this cash, about 50%, is into Reliance's Jio platform but that cuts for and against. China is 90%+ ethnic Han with one-language-multiple-dialects, one-party state with most population concentrated in a few provinces. Indian elections might have a hundred plus candidates running for one-seat for parliament. India is a multi-ethnic multi-religious democracy with hundreds of languages spread across diverse geographies. The entrenched nature of (in)decision making in a three-tiered democracy, a free press, coupled with woke activism and sclerotic judiciary makes progress slow especially compared to China. In India building a single nuclear plant requires wading through two decades worth of protests by foreign non-profits [1] and final adjudication by the Supreme court that construction could proceed. Foreign funded non-profits (NGO in India speak) were criticized by the former prime minister, Manmohan Singh, for intervening in matters of India's development. Recently, a metro line's storage shed in Mumbai, India's commercial capital, was relocated after a multi year battle to save <400 trees requiring the whole project to be delayed for multiple years inconveniencing 100s of thousands who would use that line. You can have the biggest bullet train network created from scratch in a decade in China but then you get the Four Pests campaign [2] which led to eating and trading in wildlife which in turn sparked Covid 70 years later, the resulting famine, the horrors of the Cultural revolution, the great leap forward, the one-child policy, Vietnam invasion, Tiananmen, Xinjiang internment camps, One-belt-one-road, and finally President for life. All this not-withstanding, the pace of decision making has picked up and on-the ground observers in India are far more optimistic than a journalists writing in from Hong Kong nestled in the echo-chamber that is elite journalism. [1] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/manmohan-criticises-ngos-for-protests-in-kudankulam/article2924905.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/manmohan-criticises-n... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojOmUWLDG18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojOmUWLDG18
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amriksohata 6y ago
This is same old same old, nothing new in here that India hasn't suffered for since it went from an extremely resource rich nation to impoverished after invasions. It doesn't really resemble the ground level Indian spirit which is very enthusiastic. India remains one of the most diverse countries, in other countries there have been Arab springs and revolts yet Indian hosts hunderds of millions of Hindus and Muslims and many Sikhs and Christians who apart from the odd one off issue, live in incredible peace compared to other countries.
known 6y ago
India regime is intentionally keeping people poor/starving with https://archive.is/6eE5g https://archive.is/6eE5g and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_in_circulation#Total_currency_in_circulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_in_circulation#Total_...

60 points by tim_sw 6y ago

The writer is a known rabble-rouser. The funny part is that no one apart from the Bloomberg editorial team takes him seriously.

rishav_sharan 6y ago

I don't have much hope left in India. We deserve the people we vote for. India has chosen fundamentalism and fascism. The worst thing is that despite all data and stats around their failures, the current regime enjoys immense popularity. The opposition is irrelevant, the media and news portals are completely subservient to the regime. And even the SC, once the champions of our democracy are pretty much a laughing stock for whom issuing contempt cases over twitter posts to comedians is too much important. India finally has single issue voters. And this issue isn't poverty, corruption, progress or anything like that. It's just Hindutva. This religious fundamentalism is what will finally end the great Indian experiment.

lazy_nerd 6y ago
If people in US can be misled by fake news, India stood little chance. Facebook and WhatsApp have been used effectively to brainwash the general public in India. As Barack Obama described in his new book 'Promised Land', the chances of democracy surviving in a multi-ethnic, multi-religious poor country like India was precarious at best. BJP and RSS has effectively made sure that democracy dies in India
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  This is a problem in all cultures where proscriptivist philosophies have enough currency that people will actively oppose general purpose freedom. Democracy requires a willingness to tolerate differences of opinion and behavior.
- quantummkv 6y ago
  > BJP and RSS has effectively made sure that democracy dies in India That's a weird statement to make, considering that the current PM is a self-made man without any old money, family name or ivy league connections. Infact, most of the high ranking people in his cabinet are self-made men like him. The current Home Minister of India for example started his career as a polling-booth level canvasser in the party. If a poor self-made man rising to the top in free and fair elections (results accepted by everyone) is a murder of democracy, then you need to find the correct definition of democracy.
  - kranner 6y ago
    There are many examples of fascists who were self-made men. It doesn’t have anything to do with democracy at all.
  - rainingcatndogs 6y ago
    > Infact, most of the high ranking people in his cabinet are self-made men like him. We hear a lot about how the current government is less corrupt and less dynastic. But their actions say otherwise[1][2][3]. [1] https://m.thewire.in/article/politics/bjp-congress-political-dynasties-lok-sabha https://m.thewire.in/article/politics/bjp-congress-political... [2] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/electoral-bonds-controversy-all-you-need-know-10-points-112763 https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/electoral-bonds-contro... [3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_of_Kafeel_Khan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_of_Kafeel_Khan
haltingproblem 6y ago
I will start with a quibble to make a point. India has a republican form of govt just like the US not a Democracy. Republican forms of governance have existed in India for over 2000+ years [1]. They will survive whatever foreboding you have real or imagined that will befall the "great indian experiment" which is not an experiment except for those whose history starts in 1947. Hinduism has been present in India for over 3000 years. Hindu kingdoms welcomed Jews (~900BC), Christians (52 AD), Zoorastrians (600AD), Muslims (550 AD), Armenians (1500AD) who have lived and prospered without molestation for millenia because of the pluralistic nature of Hinduism. Zoorastrians who were wiped out in Persia (Iran) by their own kith and kin who converted have prospered in India to the point that this tiny minority (less than 100k) leads several of the top-20 conglomerates (e.g. Tata). Hinduism is not just tolerant but pluralistic because it acknowledges multiple paths to god unlike any other religion. Pluralism >>> Tolerance. Multi-religious, multi-ethnic India will survive because of Hinduism not in-spite of it. Case in point, the neighboring states of Pakistan and Bangladesh are both Islamic and the non-muslim population has dwindled precipitously from 20% in 1947 to less than 10% and they are well on their way to becoming 99% Muslim the next couple decades. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%E1%B9%87a_sangha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%E1%B9%87a_sangha
- fakedang 6y ago
  Indonesia is a highly diverse Muslim majority country, with a political system inspired by Indian secularist values, and it has seen much less conflict than India has in recent years. All of your assertions fall flat. To give an example from the Muslim side, Jewish refugees escaping from Spanish repression in the 1550s-1600s escaped to the Ottoman Empire, where they were welcomed and shepherded into the bureaucracy. Hinduism and it's openness may have been responsible for letting people live in harmony for close to 3 millennia, but what we see is not the Hinduism of those times, but a rabid bastardization of it, akin to Islamic radicalization we see in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
  - th3iedkid 6y ago
    Hmm Indonesia may not be the best of examples ? https://www.theweek.co.uk/103382/is-indonesia-becoming-a-sharia-state https://www.theweek.co.uk/103382/is-indonesia-becoming-a-sha...

gabruoy 6y ago

As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Indian politics, I feel like I have become less knowledgeable about the state of India after attempting to read and then skim this article. The bias appearing to be with the author is insane enough to make me want to question everything that he is saying. While I understand that its an opinion piece and that he could very well be 100% correct about everthing he is saying, the fact that I am getting no context as to who these people are other than "this leader good, this leader bad" makes this article appear to me that this is just some partisan hack complaining about politics he doesn't like, just from his own county's perspective. This just seems like the same boilerplate article from Democrats in 2016 saying "Now that Trump is elected, America is doomed" and recently from Republicans saying "Now that Biden is elected, America is doomed", painting their party leaders as great heroes and the opposition as evil villains. Maybe I should have the required knowledge of Indian culture and politics before reading this, but maybe since Bloomberg News is a global paper, not an Indian one, it should spend more time educating people about the facts of who certain politians actually are before resorting to calling them cult leaders.

ramraj07 6y ago
This article assumes a ton of prior context for sure, and it does make conclusions, I'll say it's very nuanced and actually gives an acceptable and agreeable summary of why India is the way it is due to everything happening in the past half century. If that's the goal of the article then there's definitely going to be much that has to be glossed over. It's also actually very well balanced (as much as any opinion piece can try to be) in its criticisms on both sides of the political spectrum. Anyone who's spent some time knowing about Indira Gandhi and Manmohan Singh can walk away from this article with more context on what role they might have played in Indian history. The same can be said about many articles in Bloomberg about American politics, but I suppose everyone's assumed to be fully versed in the EC system in the states since US is the place to be or whatever. Perhaps the best course of action is for Bloomberg to produce articles like that about everywhere and let the interested parties look up bg info elsewhwee. Otherwise every article about India has to then do Emergency in 70s 101 which sounds pathetic.
foogazi 6y ago
> As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Indian politics... >The bias appearing to be with the author is insane enough to make me want to question everything that he is saying. How do you reconcile those two statements ? If you know nothing about X how can you have the context to detect bias ?

spikengineer 6y ago

Timed delete

nradov 6y ago
Do you have numbers on inflation adjusted capital inflows? And why is India less attractive to capital?
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ramraj07 6y ago

This article hit too close to home for me, as an Indian struggling to decide which country to settle down in. Only difference is, I'm also losing hope in the US and pretty much every other country. One thing is clear - the future is not like the past few decades, it's no more an option for conscienable individuals to stay on the sideline and watch the world burn down while flying around drinking mimosas; either we are part of the problem or part of the solution, the question in front of me and many like me is where my societal contribution and self preservation instincts can coexist and be of the most use to everyone.

skanga 6y ago
I feel your pain. But, hope springs eternal. It's always darkest before the dawn.
haltingproblem 6y ago
The saying goes if you see a problem in everything perhaps the problem lies in your framing? If every country makes you lose hope when we live in the safest, wealthiest and longest life expectancy era in human history inspite of a global pandemic, then perhaps you need to examine your assumptions and framing? The fact that you can choose a country to settle in implies you either have means or talent or both. I would speculate that you have the potential to make manifold contributions. Please reconsider your conclusions in a more optimistic light.
- reustle 6y ago
  While I agree with you entirely, I'm very curious about this part "we live in the safest, wealthiest and longest life expectancy era in human history inspite of a global pandemic" Data may show this, but what about "happiest"? I wouldn't be surprised if we've seen a global decline in overall happiness, even if everyone is a bit richer.
  - haltingproblem 6y ago
    Almost every era thinks they have achieved so much - prosperity, progress, knowledge, scientific temper but lost something ineffable - their happiness. Perhaps in our genes to forever feel cast out of the garden of eden and strive to get back there. Happiness is an internal state without an objective measure. Worse we don't know what makes us happy. Too little wealth ==> unhappy. Too much wealth ==> unhappy (maybe) but don't see many giving it up. I think I would be miserable without the internet, social media but I am happiest chopping vegetables and washing dishes. Maybe we all just need to go and wash some dishes.

thunkshift1 6y ago

This is a sophisticated rant

suyash 6y ago
pretty negative article, seems politically motivated against the current govt to me.

arunc 6y ago

> This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners. Why do they publish this then?

Barrin92 6y ago
to bring diversity of opinion to the newspaper, that's where "op-eds" got their name from, literally opposite the editorial board.
- disown 6y ago
  > to bring diversity of opinion to the newspaper But the author of the article is a bloomberg employee. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ASj7dG4ftKY/andy-mukherjee https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ASj7dG4ftKY/andy-m... > that's where "op-eds" got their name from, literally opposite the editorial board. No. It got it's name from being "opposite of the editorial page". Not the editorial board. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed

haltingproblem 6y ago

Andy is a long time observer of India but this is a blinkered take. FDI (foreign direct investment) in India has doubled to $28B+ from $14B last year for the same 6-month period, in the midst of a pandemic. May I humbly suggest that foreign investors pumping cash into India by choice have more skin the game than economic journalists writing op-eds in newspapers no matter how erudite they are. A good chunk of this cash, about 50%, is into Reliance's Jio platform but that cuts for and against. China is 90%+ ethnic Han with one-language-multiple-dialects, one-party state with most population concentrated in a few provinces. Indian elections might have a hundred plus candidates running for one-seat for parliament. India is a multi-ethnic multi-religious democracy with hundreds of languages spread across diverse geographies. The entrenched nature of (in)decision making in a three-tiered democracy, a free press, coupled with woke activism and sclerotic judiciary makes progress slow especially compared to China. In India building a single nuclear plant requires wading through two decades worth of protests by foreign non-profits [1] and final adjudication by the Supreme court that construction could proceed. Foreign funded non-profits (NGO in India speak) were criticized by the former prime minister, Manmohan Singh, for intervening in matters of India's development. Recently, a metro line's storage shed in Mumbai, India's commercial capital, was relocated after a multi year battle to save <400 trees requiring the whole project to be delayed for multiple years inconveniencing 100s of thousands who would use that line. You can have the biggest bullet train network created from scratch in a decade in China but then you get the Four Pests campaign [2] which led to eating and trading in wildlife which in turn sparked Covid 70 years later, the resulting famine, the horrors of the Cultural revolution, the great leap forward, the one-child policy, Vietnam invasion, Tiananmen, Xinjiang internment camps, One-belt-one-road, and finally President for life. All this not-withstanding, the pace of decision making has picked up and on-the ground observers in India are far more optimistic than a journalists writing in from Hong Kong nestled in the echo-chamber that is elite journalism. [1] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/manmohan-criticises-ngos-for-protests-in-kudankulam/article2924905.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/manmohan-criticises-n... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojOmUWLDG18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojOmUWLDG18

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amriksohata 6y ago

This is same old same old, nothing new in here that India hasn't suffered for since it went from an extremely resource rich nation to impoverished after invasions. It doesn't really resemble the ground level Indian spirit which is very enthusiastic. India remains one of the most diverse countries, in other countries there have been Arab springs and revolts yet Indian hosts hunderds of millions of Hindus and Muslims and many Sikhs and Christians who apart from the odd one off issue, live in incredible peace compared to other countries.

known 6y ago

India regime is intentionally keeping people poor/starving with https://archive.is/6eE5g https://archive.is/6eE5g and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_in_circulation#Total_currency_in_circulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_in_circulation#Total_...