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Where is the Hispanic and Black representation? I see 3/15 people on that page being women, not a very strong point for a group that is 50% of the population.

Where is the Hispanic and Black representation? I see 3/15 people on that page being women, not a very strong point for a group that is 50% of the population. This is the standard SV makeup. Do a random sample of any large tech company and this is the team you’d get. This tells me they’re not doing anything different.

9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
There are not enough qualified black people in that job market, what is this that Americans have that difficult to grok?
- TACIXAT 6y ago
  If true, what are they doing to change that? When I was at Google there were zero paths to bring in people with potential and train them up. I’m guessing it is the same at Coinbase. Doing nothing to address the problem then pointing at your H1Bs and patting yourself on the back.
  - 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
    I would guess through the same system everyone else qualifies through, weather it be Google or someone else. Your local governments have to push the education forward instead of doing these racist affirmative action rules.
    - vmception 6y ago
      The talent pools exist, they can definitely increase recruiting at different schools. America is where it is by not even tapping into the productivity of basically up to half of its population across various demographics, imagine if it did.
  - blahblahblogger 6y ago
    honest Q: why is it their job to fix this? also: for companies that are global in nature, with global operations, offices, employees, etc. is it right to take on the issues of the country where they have an office? (or are HQ-ed, or have X% of employees (even if majority)?) Why not other things? Why aren't the issues of the impoverished of India an issue w/ tech companies, especially given the large presence of "well to do" Indians or upper-casters?
    - TACIXAT 6y ago
      If corporations were not involved in our politics in the US it would be fine. You don’t get to shape the laws of a country then wash your hands of responsibility for the people. Our healthcare relies on our employment, they fund politicians, write laws. They are very much the lords of the modern era and they need to act in the interest of people, or lose their corporate personhood. As for the globalist perspective, I agree. We should care how people up the supply chain live. I understand the issues in the US significantly better than those in China or India though. For those issues, give them visibility and work toward a solution. It doesn’t have to be either or.
- vmception 6y ago
  Americans think that is a) bullshit b) even if it wasn't bullshit, the companies improve with the representation to adequately ship products to markets that they would otherwise ignore c) both kinds of people are benefits to the companies, as there is a greater priority to address markets than cater to egos of internal employees
RestlessMind 6y ago
> Where is the Hispanic and Black representation? Coinbase aspires to be a global company. What does "Black" even mean in that context? People with dark skin color? If so, a broad portion of South Asians and sub-Saharan Africans would qualify. What does Hispanic mean? Would Spanish people qualify? Did you mean only in the context of the USA? If so, how is that different than the Nationalist jingoism of Donald Trump, where you want US-centric population representation in a global company?
- triceratops 6y ago
  > What does Hispanic mean? Would Spanish people qualify? Yes. The word has a definition - even an official one by the Census Bureau.
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ZephyrBlu 6y ago
Why should any company or board reflect the population?
- TACIXAT 6y ago
  When companies do not reflect the population then it shows that some races do not have the same opportunity as others.
  - 0xy 6y ago
    Do you think there are zero differences in races and that one race wouldn't naturally drift towards particular roles or industries more than another race? Because this point of view isn't supported by data. Asians, a minority by every measurement, are over-represented in STEM classes to the point that Harvard and others actively discriminate against them. Studies have shown, repeatedly, that blind hiring (stripping names from resumes, showing only experience) actually worsens diversity. This means companies generally give more opportunity to black, Asian and other minority groups.
  - tetrometal 6y ago
    If you measure some quantity using biased sampling, you're invariably going to see biased results. The assumption that the biased results in this scenario are due to lack of opportunity, racism, etc are unfounded. Correlation is not causation.
  - shadow28 6y ago
    Yes, but that's not at the hiring level but at education level. You can't expect every single tech company to be representative of the population since there simply aren't that many female/black/whatever engineers

9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago

There are not enough qualified black people in that job market, what is this that Americans have that difficult to grok?

TACIXAT 6y ago
If true, what are they doing to change that? When I was at Google there were zero paths to bring in people with potential and train them up. I’m guessing it is the same at Coinbase. Doing nothing to address the problem then pointing at your H1Bs and patting yourself on the back.
- 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
  I would guess through the same system everyone else qualifies through, weather it be Google or someone else. Your local governments have to push the education forward instead of doing these racist affirmative action rules.
  - vmception 6y ago
    The talent pools exist, they can definitely increase recruiting at different schools. America is where it is by not even tapping into the productivity of basically up to half of its population across various demographics, imagine if it did.
- blahblahblogger 6y ago
  honest Q: why is it their job to fix this? also: for companies that are global in nature, with global operations, offices, employees, etc. is it right to take on the issues of the country where they have an office? (or are HQ-ed, or have X% of employees (even if majority)?) Why not other things? Why aren't the issues of the impoverished of India an issue w/ tech companies, especially given the large presence of "well to do" Indians or upper-casters?
  - TACIXAT 6y ago
    If corporations were not involved in our politics in the US it would be fine. You don’t get to shape the laws of a country then wash your hands of responsibility for the people. Our healthcare relies on our employment, they fund politicians, write laws. They are very much the lords of the modern era and they need to act in the interest of people, or lose their corporate personhood. As for the globalist perspective, I agree. We should care how people up the supply chain live. I understand the issues in the US significantly better than those in China or India though. For those issues, give them visibility and work toward a solution. It doesn’t have to be either or.
vmception 6y ago
Americans think that is a) bullshit b) even if it wasn't bullshit, the companies improve with the representation to adequately ship products to markets that they would otherwise ignore c) both kinds of people are benefits to the companies, as there is a greater priority to address markets than cater to egos of internal employees

RestlessMind 6y ago

> Where is the Hispanic and Black representation? Coinbase aspires to be a global company. What does "Black" even mean in that context? People with dark skin color? If so, a broad portion of South Asians and sub-Saharan Africans would qualify. What does Hispanic mean? Would Spanish people qualify? Did you mean only in the context of the USA? If so, how is that different than the Nationalist jingoism of Donald Trump, where you want US-centric population representation in a global company?

triceratops 6y ago
> What does Hispanic mean? Would Spanish people qualify? Yes. The word has a definition - even an official one by the Census Bureau.
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ZephyrBlu 6y ago

Why should any company or board reflect the population?

TACIXAT 6y ago
When companies do not reflect the population then it shows that some races do not have the same opportunity as others.
- 0xy 6y ago
  Do you think there are zero differences in races and that one race wouldn't naturally drift towards particular roles or industries more than another race? Because this point of view isn't supported by data. Asians, a minority by every measurement, are over-represented in STEM classes to the point that Harvard and others actively discriminate against them. Studies have shown, repeatedly, that blind hiring (stripping names from resumes, showing only experience) actually worsens diversity. This means companies generally give more opportunity to black, Asian and other minority groups.
- tetrometal 6y ago
  If you measure some quantity using biased sampling, you're invariably going to see biased results. The assumption that the biased results in this scenario are due to lack of opportunity, racism, etc are unfounded. Correlation is not causation.
- shadow28 6y ago
  Yes, but that's not at the hiring level but at education level. You can't expect every single tech company to be representative of the population since there simply aren't that many female/black/whatever engineers