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> Housing crisis is only about the very few already overpopulated spots being hyper-attractive for people to move in because that's where opportunities are. Wh

> Housing crisis is only about the very few already overpopulated spots being hyper-attractive for people to move in because that's where opportunities are. Why not build hyper-dense housing? If you have functional public spaces you don't need as much private space. We used to have boarding houses etc. I don't need my own bathroom, I need a bathroom. I rarely use my kitchen, I just need access to one.

anovikov 6y ago
How about commuting? Pollution? School, hospital and other public services capacity? Crime arising from simply the rich place being affordable, inviting undesirables?
- Pet_Ant 6y ago
  Those come from the savings from not having to maintain as much less power grids, less roads to maintain, less roads to plow, less helicopter ambulance rides to pick up injured remote people. Sure you need more city busses now. Giving the "undesirables" a decent place and means to live reduces crime.
  - anovikov 6y ago
    Don't you think that in general, the drive to push as many people as possible into places as tight as possible, like high density urban areas, is abnormal? People by nature love to enjoy space, and this is what U.S. has in abundance. Work on making geographic location less important, on decreasing the value of being in a particular place. Embrace remote work. It will solve the "housing crisis". Forcing millions of adults into dorms, won't.
    - Pet_Ant 6y ago
      Do you think dorms are less ugly than suburban sprawl or endless exapanse of ranches? I mean how many places in the US can you find a 5mi x 5mi square of land unmolested?
      - souprock 6y ago
        Depending on what you mean by "unmolested", a 5mi x 5mi square of land is really easy to get in most of the USA. (probably weeds, not pristine old-growth forest) It's pretty cheap, and there won't be any utility bills to pay. You can use it to graze cattle or something like that.
sesuximo 6y ago
I hear what you’re saying and maybe you’re right, but I would prefer not to live like this
sokoloff 6y ago
In addition to the normal pressures against boarding houses, COVID has dramatically increased the undesirable nature of that housing.

anovikov 6y ago

How about commuting? Pollution? School, hospital and other public services capacity? Crime arising from simply the rich place being affordable, inviting undesirables?

Pet_Ant 6y ago
Those come from the savings from not having to maintain as much less power grids, less roads to maintain, less roads to plow, less helicopter ambulance rides to pick up injured remote people. Sure you need more city busses now. Giving the "undesirables" a decent place and means to live reduces crime.
- anovikov 6y ago
  Don't you think that in general, the drive to push as many people as possible into places as tight as possible, like high density urban areas, is abnormal? People by nature love to enjoy space, and this is what U.S. has in abundance. Work on making geographic location less important, on decreasing the value of being in a particular place. Embrace remote work. It will solve the "housing crisis". Forcing millions of adults into dorms, won't.
  - Pet_Ant 6y ago
    Do you think dorms are less ugly than suburban sprawl or endless exapanse of ranches? I mean how many places in the US can you find a 5mi x 5mi square of land unmolested?
    - souprock 6y ago
      Depending on what you mean by "unmolested", a 5mi x 5mi square of land is really easy to get in most of the USA. (probably weeds, not pristine old-growth forest) It's pretty cheap, and there won't be any utility bills to pay. You can use it to graze cattle or something like that.

sesuximo 6y ago

I hear what you’re saying and maybe you’re right, but I would prefer not to live like this

sokoloff 6y ago

In addition to the normal pressures against boarding houses, COVID has dramatically increased the undesirable nature of that housing.