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I remember reading in the calguns forums a few years back that sheriffs had de-facto outlawed concealed carry in CA with this extortionate program. By the way
by TaylorAlexander 6y ago
I remember reading in the calguns forums a few years back that sheriffs had de-facto outlawed concealed carry in CA with this extortionate program.
By the way Apples head of security isn’t the only one. Nanci Pelosi has had a CCW for a long time while simultaneously fighting to suppress gun ownership in her own city and state.
- nradov 6y agoThat's nothing new. Senator Dianne Feinstein got a permit to carry a concealed handgun in San Francisco. There has always been one set of rules for the powerful and another set for the rest of us.
- sokoloff 6y agoOne rule for me, another for thee...
- simonh 6y agoEr, no. Different laws at different times. If CC were made illegal, it would be illegal for her too. Or is she actually advocating for different laws for different people?
- tesmar2 6y agoYes but you shouldn’t need a permit to get one, in the spirit of the 2nd amendment. Having permits just makes 2 classes of people, those with connections to the sheriff and regular Joes.
- TaylorAlexander 6y agoWhat do you do when you want it to be legal for some people and illegal for other people? Make an opaque approval process and don’t approve very many people. My understanding based on some details I heard a few years ago (so I am no expert) is that this is exactly what happened.
- treeman79 6y agoShe and her class are above the laws.
- scurvy 6y agoShe had one because the anarcho hippie terrorist groups of SF targeted her and shot up her home several times. When the group was arrested/disbanded, she let her permit lapse. While I agree it sucks that some rich and powerful people seem to live by a different set of rules, it's not like she had a permit just for kicks.
- TaylorAlexander 6y agoBut that’s the whole point of a CCW permit. If you’re at risk you should be allowed to have one, and yet she works to make that impossible for all but the powerful and connected. It’s fine that she has one but it’s not fine that she doesn’t let regular Californians go through the same application process without money or connections.
- scurvy 6y agoMy point was to show that she had a legitimate need, then let the permit lapse when she no longer had a need. She didn't have one for an abuse of power. I wasn't debating the merits of the CA shall issue policy. In other words, don't pick a fight where there isn't one.
- tw158f23915e2a 6y ago> My point was to show that she had a legitimate need No one was arguing otherwise. The comments you were replying to were clearly about the hypocrisy of anti-gun politicians. > In other words, don't pick a fight where there isn't one. Indeed.
- unishark 6y agoDon't senators get (armed) govt security protection anyway when they are threatened?
- scurvy 6y agoShe was mayor of San Francisco at the time.
- makomk 6y agoWhat gets me as a Brit is when wealthy Hollywood celebrities campaigning for gun control point to our country's gun laws as an example and then insist that of course their security guards should be allowed to carry guns. (Private sector armed security is basically illegal here.) Of course, what really really gets me is when they talk about our total ban on guns while insisting that their security guards don't count because they have handguns and not big scary rifles, because the total UK ban they're likely thinking of is on handgun ownership specifically.
- billylindeman 6y agoIDK why you're getting downvoted.. I looked into this when I moved to SF and was astonished that it was basically impossible to get a CCW. Coming from the Detroit area this was a MAJOR shock to me.
- Grakel 6y agoI'm surprised Pelosi thinks she even needs one. Rules for you and not for me.