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I saw a video where a person, walking alone on an apparently empty sidewalk, is not scolded but harassed for not wearing a mask (there is a mask, just not worn)

I saw a video where a person, walking alone on an apparently empty sidewalk, is not scolded but harassed for not wearing a mask (there is a mask, just not worn). The harasser was the one proudly filming their heroic act. (Addendum: there’s the obvious question, why not just wear a mask 100% of the time? There are no downsides, right? — There can be. Perhaps my mask had been in use for a while, I suspect it’s gotten dirty enough to be a potential health hazard, but I don’t have another mask to replace it? I’d still use it if people are around, but would try to reduce my exposure to it otherwise. Maybe I have asthma or some type of breathing difficulty, and wearing a mask makes it worse? I think those two are probably among the most common reasons.)

deadmutex 6y ago
This seems like it risks having an opposite effect.
pan69 6y ago
> The harasser was the one proudly filming their heroic act. This behavior seems to be part of Call Out Culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9VYf9FKHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9VYf9FKHo
- jhardy54 6y ago
  For anyone interested in 'cancel culture' sans the reactionary right-wing propaganda: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8
  - sebmellen 6y ago
    What is "reactionary right-wing propaganda" about Jonathan Haidt [1]? That's a completely unfounded assertion. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt
    - spion 6y ago
      That's why "sans" was there.
      - sebmellen 6y ago
        Perhaps English is your second language (given your German username?) — "sans" means without. Thus the comment was implying that the ContraPoints video was "without" the implied "right-wing propaganda" in the Jonathan Haidt / Joe Rogan video.
        spion 6y ago
        Indeed its my second language, but I did get the meaning of sans right. Unfortunately I got mixed up with the two youtube links instead :)
winphone1974 6y ago
How about the downside of normalizing wearing a mask? These are not normal times and this is not the new normal; I want everyone to wear a mask because it must be done not because we should permanently condition ourselves that this is how we now live.
- strogonoff 6y ago
  I think the downside of not wearing a mask is, in fact, normalising not wearing a mask in the eyes of people who do not take into account that it’s not worn for a reason and because there is no one near me. Thus I try to put mask on when I see someone on the street even if they are far away. I think not wearing masks again will be easy to normalise. For example, Hong Kong got hit by the first SARS and everyone wore a mask for a time, and then when it was over all was back to normal and masks quickly became rare.
  - markkanof 6y ago
    I hope you are right, but I'm not convinced. Covid isn't just going to go away like switching off a light switch. A good number of people have gone way off the deep end with regard to "being safe". I'm not sure they will be able to reason about when the risk is low enough to be able to stop wearing a mask.
    - pjc50 6y ago
      Some countries are now at nearly zero cases.
    - strogonoff 6y ago
      I believe once vaccines and better treatment are generally available and proven effective, it will be a cue to very quickly abandon excess caution for most people, even those who have gone to the extreme. Larger countries (including the US) that are more sparsely populated and tend to rely on central messaging from authorities less will probably have areas that are slower at adopting new measures (or lack thereof), which may be frustrating, but I imagine large cities will be able to react promptly.
parliament32 6y ago
WHO explicitly recommends against wearing masks while exercising: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters#exercising https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... >FACT: People should NOT wear masks while exercising >People should NOT wear masks when exercising, as masks may reduce the ability to breathe comfortably. >Sweat can make the mask become wet more quickly which makes it difficult to breathe and promotes the growth of microorganisms. The important preventive measure during exercise is to maintain physical distance of at least one meter from others.

deadmutex 6y ago

This seems like it risks having an opposite effect.

pan69 6y ago

> The harasser was the one proudly filming their heroic act. This behavior seems to be part of Call Out Culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9VYf9FKHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9VYf9FKHo

jhardy54 6y ago
For anyone interested in 'cancel culture' sans the reactionary right-wing propaganda: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8
- sebmellen 6y ago
  What is "reactionary right-wing propaganda" about Jonathan Haidt [1]? That's a completely unfounded assertion. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt
  - spion 6y ago
    That's why "sans" was there.
    - sebmellen 6y ago
      Perhaps English is your second language (given your German username?) — "sans" means without. Thus the comment was implying that the ContraPoints video was "without" the implied "right-wing propaganda" in the Jonathan Haidt / Joe Rogan video.
      - spion 6y ago
        Indeed its my second language, but I did get the meaning of sans right. Unfortunately I got mixed up with the two youtube links instead :)

winphone1974 6y ago

How about the downside of normalizing wearing a mask? These are not normal times and this is not the new normal; I want everyone to wear a mask because it must be done not because we should permanently condition ourselves that this is how we now live.

strogonoff 6y ago
I think the downside of not wearing a mask is, in fact, normalising not wearing a mask in the eyes of people who do not take into account that it’s not worn for a reason and because there is no one near me. Thus I try to put mask on when I see someone on the street even if they are far away. I think not wearing masks again will be easy to normalise. For example, Hong Kong got hit by the first SARS and everyone wore a mask for a time, and then when it was over all was back to normal and masks quickly became rare.
- markkanof 6y ago
  I hope you are right, but I'm not convinced. Covid isn't just going to go away like switching off a light switch. A good number of people have gone way off the deep end with regard to "being safe". I'm not sure they will be able to reason about when the risk is low enough to be able to stop wearing a mask.
  - pjc50 6y ago
    Some countries are now at nearly zero cases.
  - strogonoff 6y ago
    I believe once vaccines and better treatment are generally available and proven effective, it will be a cue to very quickly abandon excess caution for most people, even those who have gone to the extreme. Larger countries (including the US) that are more sparsely populated and tend to rely on central messaging from authorities less will probably have areas that are slower at adopting new measures (or lack thereof), which may be frustrating, but I imagine large cities will be able to react promptly.

parliament32 6y ago

WHO explicitly recommends against wearing masks while exercising: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters#exercising https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... >FACT: People should NOT wear masks while exercising >People should NOT wear masks when exercising, as masks may reduce the ability to breathe comfortably. >Sweat can make the mask become wet more quickly which makes it difficult to breathe and promotes the growth of microorganisms. The important preventive measure during exercise is to maintain physical distance of at least one meter from others.