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> and I slept the whole 5 hours like it was 5 minutes That's an experience I've never had on a flight

skocznymroczny 6y ago
I'm so jealous of people who can sleep on long distance flights. When the lights turn off, most people seem to have no issue falling asleep and then wake up several hours later. Meanwhile I have to stare at the window for all those hours. I can try to sleep, but I won't fall asleep anyway, no matter how tired I am.
- bjarneh 6y ago
  Same here, what a nightmare it is to take those long flights. I once waited 9 hours at an airport for a 12 hour flight; seldom been more exhausted than that. It wasn't even the last leg, so even more airports/waiting when we arrived. Is there a worse place to wait than those airports? The shops sell Rolex watches, Hugo Boss suits, alcohol (let me lug some bottles of vine/booze across the globe to save $12) + perfume. Obviously some overpriced cafe's and restaurants there as well, but not exactly a cool place to "hang out".
  - Cthulhu_ 6y ago
    I've spent some time in a VIP lounge once (it may have been for a train ride to Paris for which the first class ticket was just as expensive as a regular one), came on time on purpose just to sit there for a change :p. It was quiet, empty, you got offered a drink, etc. If it was a long layover, sleeping was likely an option, and with the attendant there you could ask them to wake you up if there was an issue with the flight. But, theoreticals; flying first class is 3-6x as expensive and I'm not convinced it's worth it.
    - Scoundreller 6y ago
      Depends on the airport and lounge, but you can often buy your way in for $30-$40. As the food and alcohol are free, it’s not a bad deal if you’re hungry and thirsty but not picky. Plus it’s a bit more secure so you can feel less worried about sleeping and your luggage going missing. If you’re lucky, there might not even be any babies or children.
    - matz1 6y ago
      I think 3x as expensive is still worth it for long haul flight. One business seat space equal to about 3 economy seat space and you also got lounge access and priority checkin.
    - mikepurvis 6y ago
      As a regular pleb who has only ever flown coach, I'm feel like first class is mostly people for whom the alternative is private/charter— viewed through that lens, it's a huge discount, and the extra perks are small compensation for hassles like abiding by someone else's schedule, having to use a major rather than regional airport, and needing to go through regular security (even with getting to use the priority queue).
      - jedberg 6y ago
        Most of the people sitting in first class and using the lounge are frequent business travelers on upgrade. I've had lounge access a few times because my father in law used to travel from California to Asia every other month for a large part of his career, so now he has lifetime lounge access and can bring guests. Sometimes when we travel together some of us get bumped up to first. And when my dad was flying cross country every week for work, he was almost always sitting in first class on upgrade. But we're definitely not going to be flying private. :)
    - bjarneh 6y ago
      I've only been to those a couple of times but they make all the difference. The relaxed atmosphere, the ability to take a shower/nap/drink makes you almost want to hang out at the airport.
  - tsm 6y ago
    Especially in the smartphone era, I actively enjoy having a couple hours to kill in an airport. I make sure that I have a range of activities to do depending on energy level (writing about my research / hacking on something / reading nonfiction / reading a "brainless" book / surfing through HN or reddit), have pre-meditated that it's okay to pay airport prices on a fancy coffee drink or a beer or whatever, have pre-meditated that I should have no expectations about productivity, and then just hunker down in a chair with my computer/phone/book and a drink and chill out. It feels very removed from the pressures of everyday life, which I like—I wouldn't be able to chill half as well if I were at home and felt like I was supposed to be doing something more important. On an airplane you lose the internet, but the same general strategy works for me. Re. sleeping, it works for me to sleep when I'm able to and say "well if you can't sleep right now, read your book. Oh, you're too tired to read your book? Maybe it's time to sleep"
    - grogenaut 6y ago
      Flew from Seattle to Frankfurt last year in economy select which was current us first class seats. Had just enough internet to docs and a small amount of slack (1 active convo). Got so much work done reviewing docs and COEs while watching a movie on the pull out tv (bulkhead) aka laptop dual monitor. Would do again. Solstice so light the entire flight over the artic
  - dkersten 6y ago
    These guys spent four days in a (large) airport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCETjh4eMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCETjh4eMc There are also the stories of the people who have lived for months in airports. I guess you are lucky it was "only" 9 hours, but yeah, it doesn't sound pleasant.
    - bjarneh 6y ago
      > I guess you are lucky it was "only" 9 hours, but yeah, it doesn't sound pleasant. We were in Caracas; so we were advised not to go into the city. It became a 9 hour stint at Burger King pretty much, which is enough. If you look at long airports visits from a "survival" aspect, it's probably quite nice. Or at least compared to being on the "Alone" show; but certainly not something I'd recommend :-)
- pivo 6y ago
  Pre-pandemic I would fly from Boston to India via Dubai six to eight times a year. It takes about 22 hours or so including layover. I take an Ambian an hour or two into the Boston-Dubai leg and with that I can sleep for seven hours or so. Before that I might be able to sleep for an hour if I was lucky. It really makes a huge difference.
  - Taniwha 6y ago
    Yup that's what I do too, better living through chemistry - I also split really long flights in two, spend the day somewhere in the middle and sleep two nights on the plane. Don't make the mistake I did of taking them before take-off ... and then have the plane discover a fault on the runway ....
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- tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
  A cheap tablet can last for many, many hours on low brightness when playing movies, even without charging from a battery pack/laptop/seat port.
  - throwaway189262 6y ago
    I've got a cheap samsung tab from 2017 with absurd 7000mah battery. Play movies full brightness for 7 hours. I only use it for flights but so worth it
- bitxbitxbitcoin 6y ago
  There was a period of time in my life when I could reliably fall asleep before take off and not wake up until after landing. Key points are to not recline your seat and make sure your seatbelt is visibly buckled so nobody wakes you up.
- grugagag 6y ago
  I sleep better on flying planes than on the ground. It's possibly the humming and the calming effect induced on me. Somehow I think this is a learned experience but I may be wrong. I just imposed on myself to be relaxed as I used to be very anxious and tense when I was flying. A few times of trying this and now I fall asleep as soon as the plane takes off and many times I skip the meals offered on the plane altogether because I'm deeply asleep. I somehow associated the experience of flying with something very relaxing that my such that body anticipates the flight, I already start yawning when I'm boarding the plane.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  Same. I've never slept on one of these. It makes flying from the US west coast to Europe particularly unpleasant, as those flights usually arrive in the morning/early afternoon of the next day.
- Semaphor 6y ago
  I usually fall asleep during taxi. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like driving a car, anything that moves makes me sleepy. I can sleep in cars, trains, buses & boats without a problem, even if I wasn’t tired before.
  - beisner 6y ago
    I have this too, and refer to it as carcolepsy.
  - strictnein 6y ago
    Before kids I would semi-frequently fall asleep while taxiing and wake up when landing. It almost felt magical when that happened, like travel was instantaneous.
- gadders 6y ago
  I'm normally asleep before take off and sleep the whole flight. My wife and daughter normally just park me up against the window for the duration. I normally wake with bit of a fright when the wheels touch down for landing though.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  I once got on a plane in the UK, feel asleep at the gate before we pushed back, and woke up on wheels down in New York.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  This is why they have alcohol in airports. If you want to be polite it's probably worth telling the crew to wake you if you snore. And before the anyone tries to swoop in and score virtue points by linking to some study about how alcohol reduces "muh quality REM sleep" I'd just like to remind everyone that the alternative here is not sleeping on your flight.
  - dawnerd 6y ago
    I snore so loudly that I just can't sleep on a plane at all without feeling like a jerk. I fell asleep at SFO after coming back from Paris once and everyone was laughing at me.
    - praptak 6y ago
      You may get lucky with the anti-snore mouthpiece. I bought a boil-to-fit one for like $15 and it cut my snoring from epic to almost none.
      - dawnerd 6y ago
        First I've heard of that, will definitely look into it.
        praptak 6y ago
        Some random, maybe useful info. The mouthpiece works by preventing the jaw from recessing back. From my pre-purchase research I found out there are 2 main causes for snoring, this works for one of them. Before the first use you put the mouthpiece into very hot water, bite it with jaw going forward, then let it cool down. You can reshape it the same way later in case the fit is not good enough. This was the case with me - I was waking up with a totally sore jaw (too much forward shift). After the reshape it is much better. People report it is possible to make it possible to breathe through the mouthpiece. I found it unnecessary - maybe it even improves the airflow through the nose (I am not sure - could be placebo). Googleable keywords is "mandibular advancement device". Good luck.
- dehrmann 6y ago
  > When the lights turn off, most people seem to have no issue falling asleep and then wake up several hours later. I have a feeling they're all struggling to sleep or sleeping poorly.
  - dkersten 6y ago
    Poor sleep is still better than the boredom of hours on a plane.
- nlh 6y ago
  My friends tease me that this is one of my (few) superpowers - I can sleep comfortably for 5+ hours on long-haul flights in coach. Honestly, it's been a trial-and-error process. I discovered a few things that work for me (YMMV, of course): * Length of flight helps. I NEVER could sleep on international flights to Europe when I lived in NYC, because those flights were ~6-7 hours, which is, I think, the worst possible length for sleeping. By the time dinner service is done and the lights are out, there's about 3-4 hours of solid quiet time before they start prepping for breakfast/coffee service. Not enough. When I moved to SF, the 10-12 hour flights to Europe turned out to be the perfect length. * Time of flight helps. The best possible flight for sleeping for me are the 7pm departures out of SFO that land in Europe 10-12 hours later. That's basically normal sleep time for me, so my body is actually in sync with the flight. * Supplements help. The magic combo for me is 3mg of melatonin + 1 glass of red wine :)
  - geoelectric 6y ago
    Re: supplements, there are a few to stay away from. Ambien has costarred in a few of those "I'm sorry, they did what?" stories. It can make your behavior random if you don't fall asleep quickly or get woken early.
- junkrat002 6y ago
  I seem to have developed a Pavlovian reflex. About 30 seconds after takeoff, I can't stay awake to save my life. My wife hates flying with me.
- davidw 6y ago
  No kidding. On the other hand, if it weren't for people like me holding the plane up by the armrests... bad things would happen, right?
atombender 6y ago
It's magical. I once fell asleep before takeoff (which I've never been able to do since), and woke up exactly as the plane landed, some 7 hours later, and it felt like I had been teleported. It's the reason that I fantasize about planes one day offering real beds — or at least seats that can be put (in economy class, mind you) into a flat position.
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
  I managed this once on a 14hr long-haul from London to Vancouver (refuel in Goose Bay, because it was a a cheap flight!). Other than the refuel land/takeoff, I slept the entire flight. But only because I had only just started my paid career as a software engineer, my boss had gone on vacation leaving me to run the computer systems at a multinational research facility, and I had worked for 72 hours without any sleep right before leaving :) I don't think we'll ever get bunk planes as long as revenue maximization is at the core of the airlines' operations.
  - benjohnson 6y ago
    Bunks would let airlines cram more people into the same volume. Sadly, the requirement for everybody to be able to leave a burning plane quickly gets in the way of that particular dream.
- Scoundreller 6y ago
  The trick is to fly trans-oceanically during a pandemic: then you can snipe 3 seats to yourself in economy. It can also happen if you fly into an airport that was closed for the week before because it was bombed.
  - prpl 6y ago
    I flew Chile to US in April (last flight out for a month). There was about 50 passengers on a 787
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zentiggr 6y ago
My separation flight, returning CONUS from Pearl Harbor, was a late night 747 to SFO. New Years Eve of the millenium, so most people were already where they were going to be on earlier flights. I had an entire mid-plane six-seat row to myself, threw on two seatbelts since I know I roll when I sleep, and caught 9 hours over the Pacific. Still remember that one twenty years later.
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- jedberg 6y ago
  The flight from Hawaii to SFO is only five hours...
  - dotancohen 6y ago
    He woke up in New York, and had to hitch a ride back...
  - zentiggr 6y ago
    Twenty years makes it feel longer :) Maybe that was how long it took to get out there.
- Kipters 6y ago
  8 years ago I flew PMO-LIN on an (Alitalia) A320 at 6 am, only six passengers on board including me. Just before falling asleep I managed to see the sun rising on the quietest flight I've ever taken. Just one and half an hour, but it felt like I had never slept before :D Incidentally, that was the trip that actually started my career as a developer.
- lozaning 6y ago
  Poor man's business class, and entire row of economy to yourself.
ben509 6y ago
Managed to sleep once on a flight. I was fairly drunk and exhausted boarding, put some Mack's earplugs in and passed out. That was magical.

I'm so jealous of people who can sleep on long distance flights. When the lights turn off, most people seem to have no issue falling asleep and then wake up several hours later. Meanwhile I have to stare at the window for all those hours. I can try to sleep, but I won't fall asleep anyway, no matter how tired I am.

bjarneh 6y ago
Same here, what a nightmare it is to take those long flights. I once waited 9 hours at an airport for a 12 hour flight; seldom been more exhausted than that. It wasn't even the last leg, so even more airports/waiting when we arrived. Is there a worse place to wait than those airports? The shops sell Rolex watches, Hugo Boss suits, alcohol (let me lug some bottles of vine/booze across the globe to save $12) + perfume. Obviously some overpriced cafe's and restaurants there as well, but not exactly a cool place to "hang out".
- Cthulhu_ 6y ago
  I've spent some time in a VIP lounge once (it may have been for a train ride to Paris for which the first class ticket was just as expensive as a regular one), came on time on purpose just to sit there for a change :p. It was quiet, empty, you got offered a drink, etc. If it was a long layover, sleeping was likely an option, and with the attendant there you could ask them to wake you up if there was an issue with the flight. But, theoreticals; flying first class is 3-6x as expensive and I'm not convinced it's worth it.
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    Depends on the airport and lounge, but you can often buy your way in for $30-$40. As the food and alcohol are free, it’s not a bad deal if you’re hungry and thirsty but not picky. Plus it’s a bit more secure so you can feel less worried about sleeping and your luggage going missing. If you’re lucky, there might not even be any babies or children.
  - matz1 6y ago
    I think 3x as expensive is still worth it for long haul flight. One business seat space equal to about 3 economy seat space and you also got lounge access and priority checkin.
  - mikepurvis 6y ago
    As a regular pleb who has only ever flown coach, I'm feel like first class is mostly people for whom the alternative is private/charter— viewed through that lens, it's a huge discount, and the extra perks are small compensation for hassles like abiding by someone else's schedule, having to use a major rather than regional airport, and needing to go through regular security (even with getting to use the priority queue).
    - jedberg 6y ago
      Most of the people sitting in first class and using the lounge are frequent business travelers on upgrade. I've had lounge access a few times because my father in law used to travel from California to Asia every other month for a large part of his career, so now he has lifetime lounge access and can bring guests. Sometimes when we travel together some of us get bumped up to first. And when my dad was flying cross country every week for work, he was almost always sitting in first class on upgrade. But we're definitely not going to be flying private. :)
  - bjarneh 6y ago
    I've only been to those a couple of times but they make all the difference. The relaxed atmosphere, the ability to take a shower/nap/drink makes you almost want to hang out at the airport.
- tsm 6y ago
  Especially in the smartphone era, I actively enjoy having a couple hours to kill in an airport. I make sure that I have a range of activities to do depending on energy level (writing about my research / hacking on something / reading nonfiction / reading a "brainless" book / surfing through HN or reddit), have pre-meditated that it's okay to pay airport prices on a fancy coffee drink or a beer or whatever, have pre-meditated that I should have no expectations about productivity, and then just hunker down in a chair with my computer/phone/book and a drink and chill out. It feels very removed from the pressures of everyday life, which I like—I wouldn't be able to chill half as well if I were at home and felt like I was supposed to be doing something more important. On an airplane you lose the internet, but the same general strategy works for me. Re. sleeping, it works for me to sleep when I'm able to and say "well if you can't sleep right now, read your book. Oh, you're too tired to read your book? Maybe it's time to sleep"
  - grogenaut 6y ago
    Flew from Seattle to Frankfurt last year in economy select which was current us first class seats. Had just enough internet to docs and a small amount of slack (1 active convo). Got so much work done reviewing docs and COEs while watching a movie on the pull out tv (bulkhead) aka laptop dual monitor. Would do again. Solstice so light the entire flight over the artic
- dkersten 6y ago
  These guys spent four days in a (large) airport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCETjh4eMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCETjh4eMc There are also the stories of the people who have lived for months in airports. I guess you are lucky it was "only" 9 hours, but yeah, it doesn't sound pleasant.
  - bjarneh 6y ago
    > I guess you are lucky it was "only" 9 hours, but yeah, it doesn't sound pleasant. We were in Caracas; so we were advised not to go into the city. It became a 9 hour stint at Burger King pretty much, which is enough. If you look at long airports visits from a "survival" aspect, it's probably quite nice. Or at least compared to being on the "Alone" show; but certainly not something I'd recommend :-)
pivo 6y ago
Pre-pandemic I would fly from Boston to India via Dubai six to eight times a year. It takes about 22 hours or so including layover. I take an Ambian an hour or two into the Boston-Dubai leg and with that I can sleep for seven hours or so. Before that I might be able to sleep for an hour if I was lucky. It really makes a huge difference.
- Taniwha 6y ago
  Yup that's what I do too, better living through chemistry - I also split really long flights in two, spend the day somewhere in the middle and sleep two nights on the plane. Don't make the mistake I did of taking them before take-off ... and then have the plane discover a fault on the runway ....
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tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
A cheap tablet can last for many, many hours on low brightness when playing movies, even without charging from a battery pack/laptop/seat port.
- throwaway189262 6y ago
  I've got a cheap samsung tab from 2017 with absurd 7000mah battery. Play movies full brightness for 7 hours. I only use it for flights but so worth it
bitxbitxbitcoin 6y ago
There was a period of time in my life when I could reliably fall asleep before take off and not wake up until after landing. Key points are to not recline your seat and make sure your seatbelt is visibly buckled so nobody wakes you up.
grugagag 6y ago
I sleep better on flying planes than on the ground. It's possibly the humming and the calming effect induced on me. Somehow I think this is a learned experience but I may be wrong. I just imposed on myself to be relaxed as I used to be very anxious and tense when I was flying. A few times of trying this and now I fall asleep as soon as the plane takes off and many times I skip the meals offered on the plane altogether because I'm deeply asleep. I somehow associated the experience of flying with something very relaxing that my such that body anticipates the flight, I already start yawning when I'm boarding the plane.
rsynnott 6y ago
Same. I've never slept on one of these. It makes flying from the US west coast to Europe particularly unpleasant, as those flights usually arrive in the morning/early afternoon of the next day.
Semaphor 6y ago
I usually fall asleep during taxi. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like driving a car, anything that moves makes me sleepy. I can sleep in cars, trains, buses & boats without a problem, even if I wasn’t tired before.
- beisner 6y ago
  I have this too, and refer to it as carcolepsy.
- strictnein 6y ago
  Before kids I would semi-frequently fall asleep while taxiing and wake up when landing. It almost felt magical when that happened, like travel was instantaneous.
gadders 6y ago
I'm normally asleep before take off and sleep the whole flight. My wife and daughter normally just park me up against the window for the duration. I normally wake with bit of a fright when the wheels touch down for landing though.
chrisseaton 6y ago
I once got on a plane in the UK, feel asleep at the gate before we pushed back, and woke up on wheels down in New York.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
This is why they have alcohol in airports. If you want to be polite it's probably worth telling the crew to wake you if you snore. And before the anyone tries to swoop in and score virtue points by linking to some study about how alcohol reduces "muh quality REM sleep" I'd just like to remind everyone that the alternative here is not sleeping on your flight.
- dawnerd 6y ago
  I snore so loudly that I just can't sleep on a plane at all without feeling like a jerk. I fell asleep at SFO after coming back from Paris once and everyone was laughing at me.
  - praptak 6y ago
    You may get lucky with the anti-snore mouthpiece. I bought a boil-to-fit one for like $15 and it cut my snoring from epic to almost none.
    - dawnerd 6y ago
      First I've heard of that, will definitely look into it.
      - praptak 6y ago
        Some random, maybe useful info. The mouthpiece works by preventing the jaw from recessing back. From my pre-purchase research I found out there are 2 main causes for snoring, this works for one of them. Before the first use you put the mouthpiece into very hot water, bite it with jaw going forward, then let it cool down. You can reshape it the same way later in case the fit is not good enough. This was the case with me - I was waking up with a totally sore jaw (too much forward shift). After the reshape it is much better. People report it is possible to make it possible to breathe through the mouthpiece. I found it unnecessary - maybe it even improves the airflow through the nose (I am not sure - could be placebo). Googleable keywords is "mandibular advancement device". Good luck.
dehrmann 6y ago
> When the lights turn off, most people seem to have no issue falling asleep and then wake up several hours later. I have a feeling they're all struggling to sleep or sleeping poorly.
- dkersten 6y ago
  Poor sleep is still better than the boredom of hours on a plane.
nlh 6y ago
My friends tease me that this is one of my (few) superpowers - I can sleep comfortably for 5+ hours on long-haul flights in coach. Honestly, it's been a trial-and-error process. I discovered a few things that work for me (YMMV, of course): * Length of flight helps. I NEVER could sleep on international flights to Europe when I lived in NYC, because those flights were ~6-7 hours, which is, I think, the worst possible length for sleeping. By the time dinner service is done and the lights are out, there's about 3-4 hours of solid quiet time before they start prepping for breakfast/coffee service. Not enough. When I moved to SF, the 10-12 hour flights to Europe turned out to be the perfect length. * Time of flight helps. The best possible flight for sleeping for me are the 7pm departures out of SFO that land in Europe 10-12 hours later. That's basically normal sleep time for me, so my body is actually in sync with the flight. * Supplements help. The magic combo for me is 3mg of melatonin + 1 glass of red wine :)
- geoelectric 6y ago
  Re: supplements, there are a few to stay away from. Ambien has costarred in a few of those "I'm sorry, they did what?" stories. It can make your behavior random if you don't fall asleep quickly or get woken early.
junkrat002 6y ago
I seem to have developed a Pavlovian reflex. About 30 seconds after takeoff, I can't stay awake to save my life. My wife hates flying with me.
davidw 6y ago
No kidding. On the other hand, if it weren't for people like me holding the plane up by the armrests... bad things would happen, right?

atombender 6y ago

It's magical. I once fell asleep before takeoff (which I've never been able to do since), and woke up exactly as the plane landed, some 7 hours later, and it felt like I had been teleported. It's the reason that I fantasize about planes one day offering real beds — or at least seats that can be put (in economy class, mind you) into a flat position.

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
I managed this once on a 14hr long-haul from London to Vancouver (refuel in Goose Bay, because it was a a cheap flight!). Other than the refuel land/takeoff, I slept the entire flight. But only because I had only just started my paid career as a software engineer, my boss had gone on vacation leaving me to run the computer systems at a multinational research facility, and I had worked for 72 hours without any sleep right before leaving :) I don't think we'll ever get bunk planes as long as revenue maximization is at the core of the airlines' operations.
- benjohnson 6y ago
  Bunks would let airlines cram more people into the same volume. Sadly, the requirement for everybody to be able to leave a burning plane quickly gets in the way of that particular dream.
Scoundreller 6y ago
The trick is to fly trans-oceanically during a pandemic: then you can snipe 3 seats to yourself in economy. It can also happen if you fly into an airport that was closed for the week before because it was bombed.
- prpl 6y ago
  I flew Chile to US in April (last flight out for a month). There was about 50 passengers on a 787
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zentiggr 6y ago

My separation flight, returning CONUS from Pearl Harbor, was a late night 747 to SFO. New Years Eve of the millenium, so most people were already where they were going to be on earlier flights. I had an entire mid-plane six-seat row to myself, threw on two seatbelts since I know I roll when I sleep, and caught 9 hours over the Pacific. Still remember that one twenty years later.

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jedberg 6y ago
The flight from Hawaii to SFO is only five hours...
- dotancohen 6y ago
  He woke up in New York, and had to hitch a ride back...
- zentiggr 6y ago
  Twenty years makes it feel longer :) Maybe that was how long it took to get out there.
Kipters 6y ago
8 years ago I flew PMO-LIN on an (Alitalia) A320 at 6 am, only six passengers on board including me. Just before falling asleep I managed to see the sun rising on the quietest flight I've ever taken. Just one and half an hour, but it felt like I had never slept before :D Incidentally, that was the trip that actually started my career as a developer.
lozaning 6y ago
Poor man's business class, and entire row of economy to yourself.

ben509 6y ago

Managed to sleep once on a flight. I was fairly drunk and exhausted boarding, put some Mack's earplugs in and passed out. That was magical.