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> Now, our worst fears have been confirmed. Police in Jackson, Mississippi, have started a pilot program that would allow security camera owners, including Ring
by RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
> Now, our worst fears have been confirmed. Police in Jackson, Mississippi, have started a pilot program that would allow security camera owners, including Ring owners, to patch the camera streams from their front doors directly to a police Real Time Crime Center.
Sounds like Mozilla is for user freedom with their purchased hardware only when users behave as Mozilla wants them to.
- chris_wot 6y agoIt feels to me that Mozilla are getting more and more into areas that are not related to their core.
- dralley 6y agoMozilla Foundation. The non-profit, not the coproration that develops Firefox. The Foundation is and always has been focused on the greater mission of privacy and freedom on the web.
- dathinab 6y agoConstraining other peoples freedom, or otherwise possible ways to harm other people in any form is not included into the freedom people push for. Your argument is kinda like saying if you prevent someone from hitting someone else your are against fredome because that person should be free to hit anyone they want to hit. Just that's a more subtle topic then hitting someone.
- throwaway69123 6y agoYour analogy isnt fair because we are talking about people doing things on private property, not violently assulting people.
- naikrovek 6y agoSo brave to hide behind a throwaway. I want the freedom to walk down my driveway and check my mail without being automatically recorded. That's the type of freedom being stepped on, here.
- throwaway69123 6y agoThe irony of someone complaining about surveillance and throw aways in the same sentence.
- naikrovek 6y agoOne reply, two paragraphs, three sentences. Counting is simple, I'm sure you can do it if you really try. You are not understanding what people are telling you, and at this point you seem quite determined to avoid understanding many things. So, you probably have some stake in this somehow. Ah yessss downvote me instead of debating. Just tells me I'm right.
- lopmotr 6y agoEverything in your comment is an insult. That's probably why it's downvoted.
- jakelazaroff 6y ago“People doing things on private property” doesn’t quite capture it — we’re talking about creating a giant mesh surveillance network for the police state.
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- throwaway69123 6y agoThis is my take as well, what they have written is really dishonest. You could replace ring camera with mobile phone and make their same arguments and people would look at you like you are crazy.
- sellyme 6y ago> You could replace ring camera with mobile phone Okay, let's do that: > [paraphrasing] We've published an app that will live-stream your phone's camera to the police, you should use it. ...yeah, that actually seems worse to me.
- throwaway69123 6y agoSome police departments already support video calls, no one cared.
- Reelin 6y ago24/7 live stream != video call
- throwaway69123 6y agoIts not a 24/7 live stream you didnt read the article > Lumumba said the city would only be able to access the devices when crimes occur in those areas.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoIt's still an available 24/7 live stream even if they aren't accessing it constantly. Further, they haven't provided any details on how they will effectively control access, the area a crime would allow access to, how long the cameras could be accessed, or how they would handle false reports. Saying they won't abuse it isn't enough.